<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> Please remove this address in your own words<o:p></o:p> please<o:p></o:p> לשרותך<o:p></o:p> עמית כהן<o:p></o:p> מנכ"ל <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <img width="97" height="44" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D164ED.527E9830" alt="x2one_logo"><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> נייד : 054-7444444 <o:p></o:p> טלפון: 077-2285300 <o:p></o:p> פקס : 077-2285994<o:p></o:p> מייל : <a href="mailto:amit.c@x2one.com">amit.c@x2one.com</a> <o:p></o:p> אתר : <a href="http://www.x2one.com">www.x2one.com</a> <o:p></o:p> כתובת: רחוב המלאכה 1,פארק תעשיות צפוני לוד, 7152001<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Pavel Odintsov Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:55 PM To: Paul Civati Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Hello, Paul!<o:p></o:p> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> I live at Saint-Petersburg, Russia and here even small ISP's (with 1000-2000 customers) offer white/external IP addresses to customers. Each of they have multiple /16 subnets. That's really popular. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> You could just check companies who "sell" IP addresses right now. Almost all of they violated your rules some time ago and right now they are making money with RIPE's help. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Paul Civati <<a href="mailto:paul@racksense.com" target="_blank">paul@racksense.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:42, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > But actually there really big injustice exists here! > > I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used. > > But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market. > > And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time. > > Than't really weird, isn't it? If someone has good grounds to believe that an LIR has abused processes then report them to RIPE. RIPE will then hopefully instigate an audit. Regards, Paul. -- Paul Civati <paul(at)<a href="http://racksense.com" target="_blank">racksense.com</a>> 0870 321 2855 Rack Sense Ltd - Managed Service Provider - <a href="http://www.racksense.com" target="_blank"> www.racksense.com</a><o:p></o:p> <div> <div> ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" target="_blank">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <o:p></o:p> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> -- <o:p></o:p> <div> Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>