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Hey,<br>
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am i the only person having the feeling that there is a private
issue going on here?<br>
I mean come on, this guy has the bigger one, i am jalous too, but as
part of the RIPE NCC i think i really should trust the persons
working for the NCC.<br>
For my understanding with every new allocation (and he has a lot..)
there is an Audit going on.<br>
<br>
Ok, he is announcing part of the networks outside the RIPE Area, but
for my understanding that is ok as long as the company and the core
network is based in Europe. Or did i missed something.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.11.2013 17:12, schrieb William
Weber:<br>
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Hello together,
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<div>So so so, finally he can reply - Hello there Mr. Lu, why were
my previous contact tries ignored?
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<div>I was in fact <b>AT YOUR ADDRESS</b> in Holland in 2012,
nobody there - I would have someone sent to your address in
China also, but that one is unclear described.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>>I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data
about me personally and my private company as well</div>
<div>I do not need to share any sources (what is this, the
PLA?), all data was obtained legally in my country of
residence (Slovenia) and Austria - I can not vouch for
correctness but in the past it was usually near the
expected.</div>
<div>Not like your data is secret in the Netherlands.</div>
<div> </div>
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<div dir="auto">making an criminal charge(corruption) to
Ripe NCC, inaccurate publish our private income data in
the public space without supporting evidence are very
serious offense under european law, although my lawyer
strongly suggest him to write the letter, I insists my
self to write here just because I would appreciate
member's understanding and community's support.</div>
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<div>I'm not sure what gives you the idea that Dutch law
would be applicable to me in Slovenia/Austaira (or at all,
considering that Slovenia/Austria as per constitution
cannot extradict citizens)?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The statement of mine - *POSSIBLE* bribe - Is fully
legal to make, even the implication of it would be - The
RIPE ticket system is also not the public and neither is
the mailing list, it is a closed system.</div>
</div>
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<div><br>
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<div>You can sue me all you want, i have not much to loose
currently, and once cleared move to Israel which does neither
extradict nor care much about Europe.</div>
<div>The Austrian police confiscated my hardware 2012 and 2013,
the Austrian police investigates my financial transactions,
the Polish police wants to see me in jail (and has an order
for that), Hongkong authorities are not amused, my phones and
internet is taped, i am being followed by the Austrian police.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just google my name and add "tor" and you get an image, you
(and no one else) can threaten me with "law" anymore.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I will reply more lenghty later, because even though the
Austrian government does not like me they still send me
invitations to broadband expansion forums and force me to
attend and speak.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, most here agree with me and you CLEARLY violate RIPE
policies with the ARIN routing and others - So *you* are the
one that should explain himself, not me.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is also a note: <b>The statements here are fully
personal or statements of my own companies, not EDIS GmbH
which is however one LIR i represent.</b></div>
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<div>William Weber | RIPE: WW | LIR:</div>
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<div>Am 21.11.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "H.Lu" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>>:</div>
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<div>Hi</div>
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<div>We do not want to sue "anybody" here, sorry for
mistyping English.</div>
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<div>we followed all the process in the Ripe region, and I
personally involved and participated in the Ripe policy
development process,<br>
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To inasset network:</div>
<div><br>
I wonder how you as single organization define "best
interest of ripe member" and justifying other member's IP
usage?<br>
Kind regards
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Lu</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On 2013-11-21, at 下午12:26, "Administration - [ inAsset
Networks ]" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:admin@inasset.es">admin@inasset.es</a>>
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Good Afternoon (in Europe)
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<div>Mr. Lu, we will follow your activities closely, and
see if RIPE NCC takes action in the event the use of
your assigned space is not in the best interest of its
members.</div>
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<div>For now, we would like to know why you are announcing
RIPE NCC space in ARIN.</div>
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<div>El 21/11/2013, a las 16:02, H.Lu <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>>
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<div>Hi:</div>
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<div>What a surprise morning.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I think it was talking about me and my company.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To clarify few things, the justification
process of our application took very long in ripe
NCC and I believe ripe NCC investigate about us
heavily in the major service we provided at the
time of it being justified. and corruption claim
are very much inappreicate and I would ask you
apologizes to Ripe NCC.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Me as individual as been actively involved in
the ripe community in past 5 years, and I believe
most active member in the list knowing me
personally.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I wondering where you have the inaccurate
income data about me personally and my private
company as well. as it can not be obtain legally
and the data was not correct. I personally owing
quite few companies worldwide but they are all
private companies I do not feel the need to share
our financial details publicly.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Most part of our business are confidential so
sorry we can not provide more details here, like
every request, Member base are trusting Ripe NCC
to make the right decision at the time of
application. That is how business really works,
only Ripe NCC has rights to getting into
confidential area of member's business, otherwise
I believe every member would have to publish </div>
<div> every detail about their business to the
public.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And I would ask if you do have more questions
for me, as long as it is not confidential, I'd
like to share my stories with you. Please do not
bother Ripe NCC for this matter any more.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>At this point, Ripe NCC are just a book keeper
for its members and Ripe community, they are not
police force, if you do feel we have some unlawful
practice--thought I seriously doubt about it,
please contact related law enforcement and we are
very happy to assist in the matter with them.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Last but not least, as I just had phone call
with my lawyer, making an criminal
charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate publish
our private income data in the public space
without supporting evidence are very serious
offense under european law, although my lawyer
strongly suggest him to write the letter, I
insists my self to write here just because I would
appreciate member's understanding and community's
support.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if you still have more questions.</div>
<div><br>
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<div> </div>
<div><br>
Kind regards
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Lu</div>
</div>
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On 2013-11-21, at 上午11:05, William Weber <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ripe-members-discussion@edisglobal.com">ripe-members-discussion@edisglobal.com</a>>
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As RIPE seems to have decided that i can be
ignored and no one needs to reply to me i make
this public now as threatened to them before - See
Dear Andrew, i don't care what you say - if you
don't reply me with anything useful then i take
steps to get others involved.
<div>This is not the first time i reported a LIR
for evaluation and was ignored.<br>
<div><br>
<div>I waited over a month for any reply and
sent multiple follow up mails, no replies
and the ticket is "open" in the Lirportal,
now the last reply i got was again useless
and without any interest (No Andrew, i
cannot use the LIR<>LIR report form to
report LIR<>RIPE, i can't even enter
that there.)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Theres some more fun to be had, here's a
text i prepared before i sent my mail to
RIPE after some investigations (which merely
took 10 minutes time and a few calls to some
associates) - Now, isn't that proof enough
for an evaluation?</div>
<div>I think so and the other LIRs i represent
do as well, but make your own picture.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>
<div>Today we follow an interesting 'ISP'
which is based on a sole-trader in the
Netherlands which managed to have
RIPE/Afrinic/ARIN assign him IPv4 space
totaling to a /8:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>His name is Heng Lu, also known as
"OutsideHeaven" - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://outsideheaven.com/">http://outsideheaven.com</a></div>
<div>Seemingly based in the Netherlands Lu
is of Chinese origin and does (as far as
informations go) not live in Europe at
all.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>First being a customer of OVH and
having his IP space announced on OVHs AS
now most space seems to be announced by
Los Angeles based ISP Multacom (AS35916).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A short view on the website shows that
no real services are provided yet massive
amounts of IPs are registered to him
personally, him as sole trader or his
companies at all RIRs:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is an AFRINIC net assigned to a
company in the Seychelles ("Abacus
(Seychelles) Limited"), the Person handle
and mail shows the connection to
OutsideHeaven.</div>
<div>The network itself contains smaller
assignments, all with the descr of
"CloudInnovation infrastructure" and
various countries set (AD, SD, YT….), most
IPs are not announced at all and seem
unused.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A RIPE network from 2012.09 announced
by Multacom in LAX outside of the RIPE
region.</div>
<div>Seems unused.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>RIPE network dating to 2012.07 (Just 3
months after the /15 was allocated,
exactly the timeframe RIPE required a
space to be used in to get a new one…),
announced on OVH.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yet another RIPE network from 2012.04
(who can spell 'bribe'?) announced by OVH
on France, unused as well.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Allocated 2010.11 - Announced by a
datacenter in the Netherlands, unused.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2011.04 - Announced in LAX/Multacom.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>List (not complete, there is more
smaller assignments on him):</div>
<div>154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs</div>
<div>185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs -
2012.09</div>
<div>5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs -
2012.09</div>
<div>5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs -
2012.07</div>
<div>37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs -
2012.04</div>
<div>31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs -
2011.04</div>
<div>46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs -
2010.11</div>
<div>178.236.224.0/20 - RIPE - 4096 IPs -
2010.06</div>
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<div>William Weber | RIPE
Person: WW | LIR: at.edisgmbh
(among others)</div>
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<div>Anfang der weitergeleiteten
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william@edis.at">william@edis.at</a>><br>
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NCC#2013100726 Complaint against a
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2013 13:18:36 MESZ<br>
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font-size: inherit;">Andrew de la
Haye <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrew@ripe.net">andrew@ripe.net</a>><br>
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<div>And who verified that these 2
analysts were not bribed... i know
guys buying /12s by bribing AFRINIC
officials (in fact, the same LIR as
this mail is about "bought" space
there also, 154.80.0.0/12) and this
isn't unheard in LACNIC/APNIC
either, so what tells me RIPE
did/does not do the same...</div>
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<div>Sorry, but this is not really any
better now:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This guy "accidentally" sits in
Amsterdam as well, not even far from
you, being Chinese(!) with barely
3000EUR income reports filled
2012/2013 in the Netherlands for his
BVs and his sole trader status and
has one of the largest total</div>
<div>allocations in the entire RIPE
region? </div>
<div><br>
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<div>How can he announce 2(!) *ENTIRE*
/15 from an ARIN ASN in Los Angeles
while i and others got contacted by
RIPE about a measly /24 on an ARIN
ASN? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Why do his assignments make no
sense, look auto generated and never
contain any end-user data? Why was
this not verified at add-alloc?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>How does he use over a million
IPs on a 100Mbit uplink to his
upstream provider? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This all is still very fishy and
not really impressive...</div>
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<div>Am 08.10.2013 um 11:55
schrieb Andrew de la Haye <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrew@ripe.net">andrew@ripe.net</a>>:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear
William, <br>
<br>
We take your allegations very
seriously. As such, your ticket
has been escalated to me by
Andrea Cima, manager of the RIPE
NCC's Registration Services
Department. <br>
<br>
Before the RIPE NCC reached the
last /8 of IPv4 address space,
we implemented a temporarily
enhanced allocation procedure to
ensure a fair, neutral and
well-documented IPv4 run-out.<br>
<br>
This procedure was communicated
to our membership and community
at meetings, via the Address
Policy Working Group Mailing
List, and via our website. You
can find the complete
description at: <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/204-last_slash_8_NCC_Services.pdf">https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/204-last_slash_8_NCC_Services.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Measures were taken to ensure
our members' needs were filled
on a first-come, first-served
basis, and to ensure that we
followed due diligence. Each
request was evaluated by two IP
Resource Analysts. Furthermore,
all large requests (/15 PA or
/18 PI or more) were rigorously
evaluated by Registration
Services Management, checked for
policy compliance by our Policy
Development Officer, and were
finally approved by two RIPE NCC
Senior Managers. <br>
<br>
The IPv4 requests you have
listed followed this process
completely and, based on the
information we received, were
entirely justified. <br>
<br>
If you have any further
questions, please feel free to
contact me. <br>
<br>
Kind regards <br>
<br>
Andrew de la Haye<br>
Chief Operations Officer<br>
RIPE NCC <br>
<br>
Singel 258<br>
1016 AB Amsterdam<br>
the Netherlands<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrew@ripe.net">andrew@ripe.net</a>
<br>
tel: +31 20 535 4444<br>
fax: +31 20 535 4445</blockquote>
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<div>Am 07.10.2013 um 14:29 schrieb RIPE
NCC Hostmaster <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hostmaster@ripe.net">hostmaster@ripe.net</a>>:</div>
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Dear William,<br>
<br>
As requested I have escalated your
complaint to the RIPE NCC Senior<br>
Management.<br>
<br>
They will come back to you ASAP.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Andrea Cima<br>
<br>
RIPE NCC<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:11:37 +0200,
William Weber wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Dear Andrea,<br>
<br>
So if there is no proof for a bribe
you do as it does not exist at all?<br>
Why did no one tell me this before, i
would have come with a suitcase of
cash to AMS... Seriously, this
statement is worse than what 3rd world
dictators state all the time about
bribery...<br>
<br>
Considering that RIPE members have no
access to other RIPE members add-alloc
(or any other) forms it is also
entirely *impossible* to prove lies in
them (hey, how should i do that if i
can't read them at all?) - Thus it
clearly is your obligation to verify
this claims OR provide the accuser
with access to a system to verify it
himself.<br>
<br>
It is by itself alone VERY suspicious
that the single largest allocation for
weeks is allocated 8 days before the
last /8 is reached to an unknown sole
trader without any business.... yes, i
think i have enough 'proof' to get
this verified by the RIPE, please
escalate it to whoever you think is
appropriate or i will do so myself
today at 00:00 via the RIPE mailing
list to ALL members.<br>
<br>
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best
regards,<br>
William Weber<br>
<br>
--<br>
EDIS GmbH<br>
NOC<br>
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Am 04.10.2013 um 15:52 schrieb RIPE
NCC Hostmaster <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hostmaster@ripe.net">hostmaster@ripe.net</a>>:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><br>
Dear William,<br>
<br>
All allocations are issued based on
RIPE policy and documentation that<br>
demonstrates the need for those
resources. The information provided
by<br>
members is confidential and cannot
be shared with other members. <br>
<br>
If you have proof that a member has
provided false information to the<br>
RIPE NCC, please provide us this
proof. Based on this we can then<br>
start evaluating the claims and take
appropriate actions. The same<br>
counts for your accusation of a RIPE
NCC emloyee having received a<br>
bribe, which is a very serious
accusation, that we do not take<br>
lightly.<br>
<br>
Finally it seems there is a
misunderstanding about the date on
which<br>
the RIPE NCC has reached its last /8
policy. The correct date is 14<br>
September 2012. Please find the
official announcement at:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2012-September/001825.html">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2012-September/001825.html</a><br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Andrea Cima<br>
Registration Services Manager<br>
RIPE NCC<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:49:32 +0200,
William Weber wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">x-ncc-regid:
at.edisgmbh (and
at.<removed>, li.<removed>, li.<removed>,
plus representing <removed>
and <removed>)</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><br>
<br>
Yes, i have to complain again to
evaluate someone....<br>
<br>
LIR is nl.outsideheaven<br>
<br>
I am 100% sure that the allocation
of his netblocks have either used
false data in the add-alloc forms,
plain lies or bribes (which i see
as the most likely) - His company
has no trading activity in any
country (verified with Dutch and
Chinese tax authorities) and
nothing that would justify the
usage of this amounts of IPv4
space.<br>
His usage of some of them also
violates RIPE rules, most are for
example not even announced inside
the RIPE region but originate from
AS35916 (Multacom in Los Angeles,
USA) solely.<br>
The assignments while RIPE already
reached the last /8 are very
questionable as well and
overturning a members and board
decision.<br>
<br>
185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs
- 2012.09<br>
-> Announced in the ARIN region
entirely, not RIPE<br>
<br>
5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs
- 2012.09<br>
-> Announced in the ARIN region
entirely, not RIPE<br>
-> How was he able to obtain a
/15 5 months AFTER RIPE reached
the last /8?<br>
<br>
5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs
- 2012.07<br>
-> Announced in the ARIN region
entirely, not RIPE<br>
-> How was he able to obtain a
/16 3 months AFTER RIPE reached
the last /8?<br>
<br>
37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs
- 2012.04<br>
-> How was he able to obtain a
/15 1 month AFTER RIPE reached the
last /8?<br>
<br>
<br>
31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs
- 2011.04<br>
-> Announced in the ARIN region
entirely, not RIPE<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best
regards,<br>
William Weber<br>
<br>
--<br>
EDIS GmbH<br>
NOC<br>
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