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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>kpn-ip-office@kpn.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> maandag 16 juli 2012 11:54<br>
<b>To:</b> tomas.hlavacek@ignum.cz; info@leadertelecom.ru<br>
<b>Cc:</b> members-discuss@ripe.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] [Ticket#2012071501000382] A summary for Proposal for New RIPENCC Charging Scheme Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>Namens </b>Tomas Hlavacek<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 15 juli 2012 23:06<br>
<b>Aan:</b> LeaderTelecom Ltd.<br>
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<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [members-discuss] [Ticket#2012071501000382] A summary for Proposal for New RIPENCC Charging Scheme Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">Hello!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">I think that when you propose such a radical changes in charging scheme you have to consider possible impacts not only on the community but also on the whole IT industry in RIPE NCC service region. We all have to step back
a bit and think about responsibility we have. Wrong decisions made and voted for on RIPE NCC general meeting could waste incredible amount of money, ruin lot of businesses and create a huge disadvantage for European IT industry in international competition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">And I think that putting price tags on IP addresses is exactly that kind of thing which can easily become such an evil.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">Please do not try to transform RIPE NCC to a government-like entity equipped with rights to tax and regulate our lives. RIPE NCC is (and should be) here to hand out resources and register them. It means that it is here to
help us all and we are willing to pay for it. If you really want Internet to be regulated, taxed and coerced to do crazy things why don't you propose to pass responsibilities of RIPE NCC to national governments or EU. They have quite a lot of experience with
making life worse for the sake of nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">Tomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:20 PM, LeaderTelecom Ltd. <<a href="mailto:info@leadertelecom.ru" target="_blank">info@leadertelecom.ru</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Current pricing not stimulate companies which have too many IP resources return they back. So for now some LIRs can have /8 and pay only in 2 times more than your LIR which uses only half of allocated space. <br>
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The same problem with PI resources. End users pay for /24 the same money as for /23, /22 etc. And this is a result of current charging scheme. <br>
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When each IP will cost some money - companies which don't need this IPs will transfer it to companies which need IP addresses (I hope..). </span><span class="hoenzb"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">Tomáš Hlaváček<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL">IGNUM s.r.o. | Vinohradská 190 | Praha 3 | 130 61<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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