<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear Mike,<br />
<br />
> You could announce the /24 and 2 * /25 yourself and blackhole to reduce<br />
> the impact, not everyone filters on /24.<br />
<br />
We tryed to do that. But when we tryed to create route object /25 we saw authentification error, <br />
while parent route (/24) has another mnt. <br />
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Alexey Ivanov</div>
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19.06.2012 17:17 - Mike Hollowell написал(а):<br />
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You could announce the /24 and 2 * /25 yourself and blackhole to reduce<br />
the impact, not everyone filters on /24.<br />
<br />
Mike<br />
<br />
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 14:21 +0400, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:<br />
> Dear Members,<br />
><br />
> Please help what better to do in this case. We have allocated PA. From this<br />
> space we Assigned PA to customer. Customer has own AS and he created routes.<br />
> Route objects doesn't have our mnt-by. He has another carrier.<br />
><br />
> The customer to which we have assiged PA space sending a lot of mails to<br />
> Hotmail. We are receiving thousands complains per day from Hotmail. We<br />
> suggested to block this IPs for Hotmail. They tell that it can be done only in<br />
> automatic mode when hotmail will receive many complains for this IPs. We<br />
> already found IPs in some black lists.<br />
><br />
> RIPE position in this case.<br />
> While routes doesn't have RIPE mnt record - they can't do anything. Routes<br />
> should be removed by our ex customer.<br />
><br />
> Ex customer position.<br />
> He won't remove routes until we will return money back. And tell us that he<br />
> doesn't send any e-mails - all was made by his customers. In our agreement<br />
> written that we don't return money back in this case. And if we will return<br />
> money back - anyway we don't have any warranty of removing routes.<br />
><br />
> Questions:<br />
> 1. How can we restrict using this routes right now?<br />
> 2. How can we remove wrong routes (see an example bellow)?<br />
><br />
> Additional information:<br />
> ------------------------------<br />
> Example of route:<br />
><br />
> route: xx.xx.xx.0/24<br />
> descr: route for xxxxxxxxxxx<br />
> origin: asYYYY<br />
> mnt-by: zzzzz-mnt<br />
> source: RIPE # Filtered<br />
> <br />
> Where:<br />
> - xx.xx.xx.0/24 - IPs from our allocation (Assigned PA).<br />
> - ASyyyy - AS our ex customer.<br />
> - zzzzz-mnt - MNT of our ex customer.<br />
><br />
> --<br />
> Alexey Ivanov<br />
> General Director<br />
> LeaderTelecom Ltd.<br />
> <br />
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<br />
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