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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=RU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello everybody,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From the counts it seems that the “not much increase” paradigm is not in the intentions of the new charging scheme. While I’d prefer to see the numbers in percents of amount to pay, the counting shows – the new charging scheme is way off the initial good feeling. (I hope the counting are fair – i.e. includes independent resources like PI and ASN).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d like also hear some words �from RIPE NCC about several suggestions voiced in the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vladislav Potapov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ru.iiat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jochem de Ruig<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nigel Titley; members-discuss@ripe.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] budget 2012<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>About 40% of members will pay less and about 60% of members will pay more.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=168 style='width:126.0pt;border-collapse:collapse;z-index:auto'><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td width=122 style='width:91.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>Pay less in EUR<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=46 style='width:34.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>less than 1,000<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>0%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>1,000 - 500<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>9%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>499 - 0<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>31%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'><br>Pay more<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>1 - 499<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>32%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>500 - 999<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>3%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>1,000 - 1,999<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>19%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>2,000 - 5,000<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>4%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:9.75pt'><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>more than 5,000<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;mso-line-height-alt:9.75pt'>1%<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jochem<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 12, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Nigel Titley wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 12/10/2011 13:56, Mike Hollowell wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:30 +0100, Nigel Titley wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>30% of XSmall members moving up, 9% of XSmall members moving down.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>59% of Small members moving up, 14% Small members moving down.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>100% M, L& XL moving up.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Doesn't look the least bit balanced, roughly or otherwise.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I did talk about the costs and not the membership category. Let me see if Jochem can give us some figures on what percentage of members will see *cost* increase and decrease.<br><br>Nigel<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>