<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <title>Re: [members-discuss] budget 2012</title> <style></style> </head> <body lang="NL-BE" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> Dear RIPE Board and Members,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In line with recent events and out of respect for the members I strongly advise you to postpone the discussion about the amending of the membership fees and focus on the budgeting first.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I strongly agree with the motions raised about maintaining a responsible budget; and perhaps in light of recent developments, we should take a moment and evaluate some of the projects the RIPE NCC has taken on itself.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Additionally, and without any disrespect, if any of the Board Members feel they do not have adequate time to fulfill their duties; they might wish to vacate their seat in favor of somebody who does.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Met Vriendelijke Groeten - Cordialement - Best Regards<o:p></o:p> Geert Hauwaerts.<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Hattersley Sent: dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 10:39 Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] budget 2012<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> +1 Wouldn't want to be one of the unheard that ripe claim to represent. Sent from my iPhone On 11 Oct 2011, at 10:35, "<a href="mailto:poty@iiat.ru">poty@iiat.ru</a>" <<a href="mailto:poty@iiat.ru">poty@iiat.ru</a>> wrote: > As far as those not contributing in the list "not care" or "agreed with > everything" it is unwise to predict "what the membership as a whole > wants". All the more nobody can act as God to be able to say: "I know > what everybody thinks and what everybody wants". > I appreciate the answers of RIPE NCC, but "I am happy to monitor", "Rest > assured", "the board is very well paying attention" are not answers the > members of the list are waiting for and doesn't bring any clear vision > on the process of determination of what changes we should welcomed at > GM. The questions at the RIPE meeting will be late and not productive at > all. > Looking at the expenses in the proposed budget I can see the increase in > all parts. I do not agree with the situation. Some time ago in 1998 I > was in London attending the RIPE courses. It was 5* hotel and one of the > natives said with some sadness, "We all do not live like that!" Maybe > we'll look into decreasing the pomp for all our rather technical > meetings/courses/hotels...? I'll look also into decreasing the stuff: as > soon as it's said they are the best in the industry they can do more > than average middle-salaried worker. > > Regards, > Vladislav Potapov > Ru.iiat > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: <a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a> [<a href="mailto:members-discuss-">mailto:members-discuss-</a> >> <a href="mailto:bounces@ripe.net">bounces@ripe.net</a>] On Behalf Of Christian Kaufmann >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:54 AM >> To: Nigel Titley >> Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> >> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] budget 2012 >> >> ...as Nigel and Fahad said, the board is very well paying attention to >> the list and what the members want. >> And for the ones who don't want to send an email to the list, feel > free >> to send a direct email to us or even better feel free to talk to us in >> person at the next RIPE meeting.:-) >> >> Best regards, >> >> ck >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Nigel Titley wrote: >> >>> On 10/10/2011 22:50, Fahad AlShirawi wrote: >>>> And on my side I am happy to monitor the members' discussion and > see >> what it is the members want and then to bring it up internally. Rest >> assured Hank that we will consider all concerns where applicable and > as >> much as possible within the constraints we have. >>> Yes, thanks for making this clear, Fahad. >>> >>> As far as I am aware, all members of the board read this list and >> take >>> notice of what the members want. Our sometimes difficult job is to >> try >>> and sort out what the membership as a whole wants, rather than just >> the >>> dozen or so active contributors to the list. >>> >>> Always feel free to send any of us a direct personal question or >>> comment, especially if there is a period of quiet. As I've mentioned >>> before, we all have day jobs which sometimes intrude on our board >> work. >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> ---- >>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC > members-discuss >>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >> general page: >>> <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view</a> >>> >>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >> >> >> ---- >> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >> general page: >> <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view</a> >> >> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From >> here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view</a> > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.<o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>