[members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM

Hi,

If I remember correctly, Hans Petter described the last few years as a 
period when RIPE recieved more money than they could spend. The outcome 
was lower membership fees, redistribution of surplus - and a growing 
organization and budget.

I heard some voices of concern even then but of course it is much easier 
to be happy when you seem to get more and pay less.

Now the growth of new LIR:s is gone and at the same time the world economy 
is not at its best. The budget is 40 M Eur wih a forecast of 50 M Eur i a 
few years. Is that the right size? Too small? To big?

We do have a kind of monopoly here. Not like there is another RIR across 
the street if you are not happy with the first one.

Yes, we have seen questions about racks buth thas was probably due to the 
presentation about 46 racks an 1 M Eur per year. Apparently the NCC now 
has plans to save a lot of that, which is great. However, if it looks like 
that in one area, how about others?

I have not actually heard anyone asking for micro management but rather 
questions about if we reaaly need to spend 40M or 50M or could we do just 
as fine whith 30M?  If we can go from 46 racks to 10, maybe there are 
other areas that coule be more efficient or even shut down.

Rather than micro management, why not have a few budget categories? Small, 
medium and large. Maybe small is bad and the members prefer large. We will 
never know if we never ask.

Best Regards,

Daniel Stolpe

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Hi,

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 01:56:36PM +0300, Mihail Fedorov wrote:
> Pardon, am I reading it right?
> 
> People here are praising lack of transparency and control as something good? Just because they don???t want to read reports? It???s insane.

There's wildly different levels of "transparency".

And no, I do not need to know how many servers the RIPE NCC operates, 
or how they are named, or how their IP addressing scheme works.

I do want to know which services eat how much of their IT budget, what
the future outlook is (like, "ATLAS needs half of our budget, so we 
have plans for improvement by doing <x>" <- good enough).

It's not our job to micromanage.  We tell them what the overall result
should be, and leave the details to the NCC.

Gert Doering
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