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Mentor Leniqi
mentor.leniqi at albahost.net
Thu May 16 15:19:25 CEST 2024
Wait a little bit longer, and you will receive alot notification to unsubscribe from multiple IPs, and even password recovery notification. On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:16 PM Sebastian-Wilhelm Graf < ripe-members at sebastian-graf.at> wrote: > the "accepted by RIPE NCC members" is a really sore point for many from > the looks. > > As far as this discussion has revealed: > > - the activity plan is put forward by the Board, with no mechanism to > influence it directly. Certainly members may provide imputs or as some may > have have called it during this discussion - complain, or put forward > suggestions, but there is no direct mechanism for control, other than > removing the board (wich really does not improve that situation, or > anything related to stability). So the timing on this should not matter. > There is no "official period" anyway. > > - As far as i can tell the Activity plan was never voted on. (feel free to > correct me and link me to when the vote took place). > > - The activity plan also does not dictate how the charging should work. So > i do not see why we cannot have a discussion about keeping fee levels the > same and reducing reserves, or having a more differentiated charging scheme > based on resources, tickets, or whatever other metric. > > Futhermore weather we regard this as "the wrong tree", i think 700 members > taking the time to sign any type of petition should show that some things > need to be re-evaluated and disucssed now, other than deferring to a later > point. > > What i would also like to see (but sadly do not have the time to do) is > count the number of unique member-addresses arguing for/against any > charging scheme and/or activity plan in this discussion. How many where in > favor, how many against? Just so that we have some numbers to go with this > as well. > > I would also like to note that a productive conversation should always be > able to take place. So as a sidenote i am actually quite surprised to find > that people are trying to unsubscribe other members from the mailing list. > After the last post i recieved until sending this response a couple of > minutes later), 3 emails showing that someone tried to unsubscribe me from > the list. Offending IP-Address: 185.162.48.60 > > Regards > > On 5/16/24 2:48 PM, Jan Zorz - Go6 wrote: > > On 16. 5. 24 14:33, Sebastian-Wilhelm Graf wrote: > > "put something forward"... > > Many members have put forward potential schemes on this list. > Many members have put forward and voted for a point to be added to the > agenda regarding the charging scheme (checking, this proposal has more > than 700 signatures to date). > > To wich the boards reaction was basically them not adding any options > based on feedback.... Then when people appear to be complaing about > that > > This has been repeated for the n-th time already. > > EB can't put an option of a lower budget (and members fee) on the agenda > as they need to follow the (accepted by RIPE NCC members) activity plan > and assure the budget for it. Period. At this point lower budget is not > possible. > > You are all barking at the wrong tree. When the activity plan comes into > a discussion at (and prior to the GM) - that's the time to start > proposing changes if you really want them. > > Cheers, Jan > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing listmembers-discuss at ripe.nethttps://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-members%40sebastian-graf.at > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/mentor.leniqi%40albahost.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20240516/16a2e574/attachment.html>
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