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[members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members
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sdy at a-n-t.ru
sdy at a-n-t.ru
Wed May 15 18:18:47 CEST 2024
It is not talk about "different members fee"! It is talking about payment for network resources that we need, but we have not, but, as fact, pay for it use by another LIRs. Let's not forget that the RIPE community and NCC is a partner organization for network management and interaction. And it is not at all a gathering of big players and address speculators. Our main task is to organize non-discriminatory access to resources from different networks. If, as a result, now 7% of LIRs took 84% of the address resources, then we have clearly been doing something wrong all these years! So, at least, another 93% LIRs must to think what is role of NCC is? > If it is all not about money maybe we can stop talking about different > members fee ? > > ________________________________ > От: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> от имени > sdy at a-n-t.ru <sdy at a-n-t.ru> > Отправлено: вторник, мая 14, 2024 6:38:26 PM > Кому: Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan at go6.si> > Копия: members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net> > Тема: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] > Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members > > Dear Jan. > > We have alternative look! > If we all pay equal sum - lets devide RIPE ipv4 and AS numbers to equal > parts for every NCC member! > > P.S. > Please - do not repeat paranoid idea: payment sum = number of votes. > > We live in 21 century. Money now is not a fetish! When you vote for > government in your country, do you proceed your votes numbers from your > salary and taxes too? > >> On 14. 5. 24 15:05, ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED wrote: >>> If big organization pay a large amount of taxes - are they have more >>> votes? Im think so - NO. >> >> If you have more shares in the company - you have more votes :) >> >>> >>> In proportional model - you pay FIXED amount PER RESOURCE. >>> Why Big members must have more votes? They pay same as other! >> >> If big members would pay significantly higher members fee price (due to >> larger IPv4 space), then it's only logical that they would request >> proportionally more votes at the GM :) >> >> Do we really want that? >> >> Cheers, Jan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmembers-discuss&data=05%7C02%7CEvgeniy.Brodskiy%40kyivstar.net%7Ca4f43eebec784f2dec3608dc742be4a8%7Cf8f9bd573bba4300a6ec3b8e70a30986%7C0%7C0%7C638512979065897013%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ji3hoK%2BsY6ipzoX83JOBZ%2Fg2KIdXOqBIIuBfX4Z4byA%3D&reserved=0<https://mailman.ripe.net/> >> Unsubscribe: >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fmembers-discuss%2Fsdy%2540a-n-t.ru&data=05%7C02%7CEvgeniy.Brodskiy%40kyivstar.net%7Ca4f43eebec784f2dec3608dc742be4a8%7Cf8f9bd573bba4300a6ec3b8e70a30986%7C0%7C0%7C638512979065905971%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZVxdoVlcIywrbbDRH1xIG9rAsysyXni5VdVPhx2LcdI%3D&reserved=0<https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/sdy%40a-n-t.ru> >> > > > ----------------------------- > С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий > ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" > +7(498)785-8-000 раб. > +7(495)940-92-11 доп. > +7(925)518-10-69 сот. > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmembers-discuss&data=05%7C02%7CEvgeniy.Brodskiy%40kyivstar.net%7Ca4f43eebec784f2dec3608dc742be4a8%7Cf8f9bd573bba4300a6ec3b8e70a30986%7C0%7C0%7C638512979065910614%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6o1OYa5CeVb9k45LVOlNEvC9WAANwxn3O%2FyHQCg%2BulM%3D&reserved=0<https://mailman.ripe.net/> > Unsubscribe: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fmembers-discuss%2Fevgeniy.brodskiy%2540kyivstar.net&data=05%7C02%7CEvgeniy.Brodskiy%40kyivstar.net%7Ca4f43eebec784f2dec3608dc742be4a8%7Cf8f9bd573bba4300a6ec3b8e70a30986%7C0%7C0%7C638512979065915193%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k02jqDwJgBAoYeKOIRWYf8qqK4jmfB140K%2FfSSsDHAE%3D&reserved=0<https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/evgeniy.brodskiy%40kyivstar.net> > > ----------------------------- С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" +7(498)785-8-000 раб. +7(495)940-92-11 доп. +7(925)518-10-69 сот.
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