[members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members

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Dear Murat,

Lats talk more, for example, about Atlas.
My company doesn't use Atlas at all. How it fits to your calculations?

Let's look more deep in HR, why do you think LIR with 10x /8 consume more HR resources ten LIR with 10x /24 ?

Our staff doesn't participate in RIPE learning cople of year, how this counted by you?


So why membership fee have to be propotional to commercial benefit (btw it is not the same as amount of IPs) ?

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От: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> от имени m.terzioglu at prebits.de <m.terzioglu at prebits.de>
Отправлено: среда, мая 15, 2024 6:05:12 PM
Кому: 'Gert Doering' <gert at space.net>
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Тема: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members

Hello,

You have:
10 x IPv4 Allocations
2 x IPv6 Allocations
2 x ASNs

You will pay with the new charging scheme between 2600 - 2900€ yearly.

Your 10 x IPv4 Subnets includes more than 400 x /24 IPv4 subnets.

This has a commercial benefit.

Than pay to our non-profit Organization, RIPE NCC, proportional as your commercial benefit from our "Internet" for community building, training, ATLAS, EB, Office, HR, etc... proportional from/for all the costs..

Using the whole Internet Resources so much as you have, but pay for that unequal...



But I am sure, you think your benefit and want to pay for your resource as low as possible...



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Von: Gert Doering <gert at space.net>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2024 16:17
An: m.terzioglu at prebits.de
Cc: 'Simon Lockhart' <simon at slimey.org>; members-discuss at ripe.net
Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members

Hi,

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:11:35PM +0200, m.terzioglu at prebits.de wrote:
> Unfortunately, i don’t have budget for "Community Building"... I paid
> already enough for RIPE NCC...

Which is, I think, part of the problem here.

The Internet works because many different companies that all compete with each other business-wise have to cooperate to "make that thing work", and this is really helped by having people to talk to, get and offer advice, and so on.

Namely, a community of network folks.


So, I see "community building" and "keep the governments off our backs"
(by outreach, training, etc.) as fundamental pillars of the work the RIPE NCC does, for all of us.  And we're happy to fund that.

And no, this has nothing to do with how many resources a LIR has.

Gert Doering
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