[members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members

Member organization, who gives you unique resources for free, you to make
commercial benefit!

What can you do without your ASN and resources? Or how can you do your
business without?


By the way, this is Discussion Mailing List for Charging Scheme. It is
obvious to talk here about this.



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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Gert Doering <gert at space.net> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2024 17:10
An: m.terzioglu at prebits.de
Cc: 'Gert Doering' <gert at space.net>; 'Simon Lockhart' <simon at slimey.org>;
members-discuss at ripe.net
Betreff: Re: AW: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM]
Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members

Hi,

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 05:03:34PM +0200, m.terzioglu at prebits.de wrote:
> You have:
> 10 x IPv4 Allocations
> 2 x IPv6 Allocations
> 2 x ASNs
> 
> You will pay with the new charging scheme between 2600 - 2900??? yearly.
> 
> Your 10 x IPv4 Subnets includes more than 400 x /24 IPv4 subnets.
> 
> This has a commercial benefit. 

We have paid RIPE fees for over 25 years now.  Maybe we have paid enough,
and only the newcomers should pay now?

Silly arguments can be made in all directions.

> Than pay to our non-profit Organization, RIPE NCC, proportional as 
> your commercial benefit from our "Internet" for community building, 
> training, ATLAS, EB, Office, HR, etc... proportional from/for all the 
> costs..

I've been around for a while, and helped build all this, which you want for
free now.  So, yes.  We do pay for this, and we do not complain (except if
they do silly "MOVE IT ALL TO THE CLOUD" proposals, or build ticket systems
from hell).

> Using the whole Internet Resources so much as you have, but pay for that
unequal...
> 
> But I am sure, you think your benefit and want to pay for your resource as
low as possible...

This is a member organization.  Every member has one vote, and pays the same
amount of money.

We're not paying for resources, we pay for membership.

If you do not want to be a member, then don't.  But then do not complain
that you can't play with the other kids.

Gert Doering
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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