[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available

I will not agree with such thinking.
In the past, witches were burned at the stakes 
people died of fever in large numbers 
once RIP handed out IP addresses without a second thought
knowledge and awareness of people is unfortunately limited 
today we have the knowledge and skills to remedy this 
one of them is to introduce a fee for IP. 
The problem will solve itself who uses IP will have no problem to pay 1
EUR/32 
who does not use IP will have a cost with which he has to face the mirror
and, as in any business, make a decision.

Pozdrawiam/Best Regard's
Gabriel Sulka

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Moin,

> > An appropriate audit procedure should be implemented, and this issue 
> > should be addressed and regulated.

This discussion has been gravitating around putting _additional_ tasks in
the form of being the 'address usage police' on the NCC for some time now.

Any form of de-allocation (and we are not even talking LEGACY here, see what
is going on in ARIN) is a significant administrative process.
Furthermore, no matter how _I_ view addresses (as non-property, of course),
many entities actually _do_ view them as property. As such, starting any
kind of endeavor of de-allocation is just a sure-shot way of ensuring close
to eternal job security for civil litigation lawyers in the NCC region; With
the associated additional costs to be shouldered by the membership.

However, instead of trying to solve the _social_ problem of IPv4 "keeping
without necessarily needing" with some form of policy-legal- hammer, we
could also just solve the _technical_ problem of IPv4 scarcity by rolling
out IPv6 (as imperfect as it may be).

I would bet my whole v4 allocation that--on societal scale, and even when
considering rather slow moving enterprises and complex legacy
setups--globally rolling out v6 everywhere is _significantly_ cheaper than
the long tail of litigation any form of deallocation would drag along.

With best regards,
Tobias

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Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig
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M tobias at fiebig.nl


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