[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available

On Thursday 28 March 2024 18:17:47 Sebastien Brossier wrote:
> On 28/03/2024 16:53, sdy at a-n-t.ru wrote:
[..]
> You're right, small and big can mean different things and there are
> various financial realities.
> 
> But the only practical metric for RIPE NCC is the number of IP
> addresses. From there we can only assume that LIRs with lots of IP
> addresses have enough money for a higher membership fee, and that LIRs
> with very limited finances just have their initial allocation.
> Far from perfect, but it is difficult to do better.
[..]

Please keep in mind that we moved from an allocation of an intangible 
technical resource (IPv4 addresses) to a scarcity of that while permitting the 
sale of that resource between parties, thus creating a market that assigned a 
value to that resource and consequentially has created an asset value that the 
companies have (should have?) put in the balance sheet.

With this view is not so immediate to force the small companies (the not so 
small ones doesn't have this problem) to devalue their company in order to 
keep the costs low. It is a slippery road and for me was the first obrstacle to 
the poll and the resolution last year.

From a practical stand point i think we can make a more informed calculation 
based on HOW MANY additional resources a company has requested and was granted 
beyond their INITIAL allocation ad the last-assignment in case of v4.

See to myself, for example, i have a /21 that was the standard allocation at 
the time of me joining Ripe, and the last v4 allocation we all been offered in 
the past. Beyond that i will get my standard initial allocation of v6 
addresses.

Can I considered a big player? by no means. 

But last year in the proposal I was in the medium category with almost 
doubling the membership, and if forced to sell the addresses I have free at 
the moment i will suffer almost an halfing of the assets of my company, so i am 
not inclined to do that for a miriad of reasons.

My humble proposal is to class basing on how many additional resources a 
company have beyond the basics that was valid at the time of joining Ripe.

This manner of thinking, will naturally shift the majority of financial burdens 
to the very large organizations that, for the fact to be very large, can 
handle the money BUT with the provision to not alter the governance of Ripe 
(more money normally makes more power and influence, and we don't want this.)

Best Regards,
  Andrea Borghi

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Andrea Borghi - W KEY srl - http://www.wkey.it
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