[members-discuss] GM topic

RIPE NCC:

I find it so incredible the way that RIPE NCC have approached, yet again, this . It seems that what ever feedback is given, RIPE management just want to push their view through. I would have thought that last year would have made the Management team think about the feedback given. But know , here we go again. We fully support the GM agenda proposal put forward by Max  Tulyev in the hopes that RIPE Management may take note of the silent majority. Just because we do not jump up and down and shout doesn’t mean you can just assume that your way is right.





George Porter
Operations Director
01928238390
07956592260
george.porter at in-services.co.uk


[ins 100x120]

SUPPLY - INSTALL - SUPPORT
www.in-services.co.uk<http://www.in-services.co.uk/>

This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Integrated Network Services Limited, The Heath Business Park, Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 4QX. Tel 01928 238390.  Registered in England 7360277.

From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of info at survivor.com.tr
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 8:24 AM
To: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] GM topic

Dear Ripe NNC,

I repeat, I feel the need to share this endorsement that I am agree with this sharing because the board thinks that we do not agree if we don’t share anything.

Hear the members' voices. Turkish translation support is also requested for more active communication. Ripe NCC has these facilities.

Best regards


Zekeriya Köş

Managing Partner

Phone:+90 850 840 6452

Direct: +90 542 790 6502

kos.zekeriya at survivor.com.tr<mailto:kos.zekeriya at survivor.com.tr>

SURVIVOR Bilişim Teknolojileri Anonim Şirketi http://www.survivor.com.tr


From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> On Behalf Of Kai Siering via members-discuss
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 3:07 AM
To: members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] GM topic

Moin,

am 25.04.24 um 00:13 schrieb Andreas Grabmüller | QuarIt GmbH:

I very much support this proposal, even though I probably won't vote for it. But I think it's an important signal that there are parts of the membership who are against the way NCC Leadership conducts their work.

Ack.


[…] what irks me is the way we are treated. Last year, they tried to get their usual budget increase in by giving us no option for a new charging scheme that didn't have a budget increase baked in, and in the end the proposals failed and instead we stayed with the old charging scheme. I think that was because it was the only option without budget increase, but I might be very wrong. I don't think there was ever a survey about it. So now instead they give us no option that doesn't increase the money they can play with.

Ack.


We always hear "this is a membership organization" and "we are reading the list" but in the end what the membership wants doesn't matter. The activity plan and with it the budget is set by the Executive Board with "input" from membership, but the membership has no decision powers.

Ack. And in my opinion this must change. In 2024, that is.


[…] The way I see it, the activities that are financed by our membership fees (and with them the budget) should be voted on by the membership.

Ack.


I'm very much of the opinion that RIPE as a registry and a lobby organization is very important for us and should have the funding it needs to fulfil these functions. I do object to the way the leadership seems to think all the members are here for is to provide their yearly budget increase like nice little zombies.

With emphasis of "seems to think": Ack.

I'm upset by the neglectance the Board is demonstrating with regards to last Spring's discussion. Yes, there's a five year plan in place the Board wants to follow thru. (Did we, the membership, actually got to vote on that plan? I really don't remember.) Even if the membership green-lighted that plan, given the recent change in economics AND last Spring's discussion, it's rather defiant of the Board to simply state "we do not believe that this is the right year to change the existing model" and call it a day.

Given that it's now being discussed what kind of proposals by the membership are allowed by the Articles of Association, I strongly suggest the Board should drop the topic "Charging scheme 2025" from upcoming GM's agenda, do their homework and move this topic – in revised form! – to the Autumn GM.

Regards,
-kai

--

Kai Siering

Senior System Engineer



mail.de GmbH

Münsterstraße 3

D-33330 Gütersloh



Tel.:    +49 (0) 5241 / 74 34 986

Fax:     +49 (0) 5241 / 74 34 987

E-Mail:  k.siering at team.mail.de<mailto:k.siering at team.mail.de>

Web:     https://mail.de/



Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter:

Fabian Bock



Sitz der Gesellschaft Nordhastedt

Handelsregister Pinneberg HRB 8007 PI

Steuernummer 18 293 20020
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20240425/1ecdb02b/attachment-0001.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 5748 bytes
Desc: image001.png
URL: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20240425/1ecdb02b/attachment-0001.png>