[members-discuss] Charging scheme 2025 proposal (logarithmic)

If people are unhappy with the cost of renting addresses from cloud providers, hosting providers or ISPs, they should be able to move elsewhere where such fees aren't imposed on them. Most of these providers do have local, regional, or global competitors. If they aren't moving the service offerings are compelling enough even when there is a slight charge per public IPv4 address.

As for limiting access, again, there seems to be ample amounts of addresses for sale by various brokers. Yes, technically the fixed cost would be different between the upstart and the established player w.r.t. addresses but does it matter? The one-time cost for these is significantly less than what an average cloud shop spends on Google ads and marketing per day to make itself known.

I don’t think the RIRs should meddle in the business models of the LIRs, either.



Kaj

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From: sdy at a-n-t.ru <sdy at a-n-t.ru>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 1:41 PM
To: Kaj Niemi <kajtzu at basen.net>
Cc: sdy at a-n-t.ru <sdy at a-n-t.ru>; members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Charging scheme 2025 proposal (logarithmic)

Kaj, sorry, but I am not agree with you.

Unfortunately, with the current address management policy, this will never
happen ("The future is supposed to be about IPv6 anyway")!

What is the point of doing a full migration to IPv6 for those who are now
'selling' 1 IPv4 address for $12 a year? They don't pay even 1 cent for
it! This business will last forever, as well as migration to IPv6, unless
the community stops it by force.

Big old companies and old small speculators, due to the connivance of old
RIR participants (and old LIRs too), have received a huge number of
addresses into management and are now using them with pleasure to make
profits and limit the access of new companies to the market. That is the
real picture of the networks world right now.

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Serbulov Dmitry

> I’m sure there is a lesson here somewhere but I’m kind of missing it. None
> of the examples you mentioned are coming back, either, and the world is
> probably better without.
>
> Hence, rather than beating the proverbial dead horse of IPv4 addresses,
> let it be. The future is supposed to be about IPv6 anyway.
>
>
>
> Kaj
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ________________________________
> From: sdy at a-n-t.ru <sdy at a-n-t.ru>
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 1:00 PM
> To: Kaj Niemi <kajtzu at basen.net>
> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Charging scheme 2025 proposal (logarithmic)
>
>>> All have been distributed a long time since, they're not coming back.
>
> A long time ago:
> - everything belonged to the king
> - there was slavery somewhere
> - there were dinosaurs
>
> Shall we continue? Or move into the future.
>
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> Serbulov Dmitry
>
>


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