[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals

Moin,

am 12.04.24 um 10:16 schrieb Tobias Fiebig via members-discuss:
>> By analogy, we can't afford an all-inclusive package holiday, we just
>> want to hire a car!
> You are not _required_ to become an LIR / member. You can always enter
> an agreement with an LIR that they will handle registration services
> for you, holding the registration rights in trust, putting a MNT-BY for
> you on the object, delegating rDNS etcetc.

Erm, PI space is for End Users only, so as an ISP one would need PA space
and for business security reasons one would not want to rely on leased PA
of another LIR that would be gone if the LIR would cease to exist. Thus,
in all practical ways, if you're not an End User, you _are_ required to
become an LIR to secure "your" address space.
> We, the membership, voted for a set of activities; The board now

No, that's the main point, we didn't get to vote on activities in the last
AGM – see Gert's mail the other day –, although we've had the same discussion
about the budget being too high last Spring.

Last Spring we were told 'now' is not the time to discuss the activities
nor the budget, 'now' is just the time to discuss how to break down the
budget in membership fees.

> We ordered the cake, we have to pay the cake.

Well, not exactly; somehow the uproar regarding the Charging Scheme for
2024 last Spring did not lead to changes to the cake recipe.

So, yes, we now have to pay for the cake the Board ordered in good faith
for us, but I *do* expect that this Autumn at last the Board will put
forward a poll on which services and activities should be discontinued
in order to down-size the cake^Wbudget.

> But starting
> the discussion after ordering the cake is somewhat difficult.

That's why I question if that model is still wise; second year in a row
in Spring a lot of members wonder why fewer and fewer members have to
pay an ever increasing bill for a cake they only got a mouthfull of ...

Regards,
-kai

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