[members-discuss] Questions about the published Draft Agenda and Supporting Documents

Kaj

I suspect we won’t be able to agree on this.

If you try to find “ROI” in maintaining a free and open internet by supporting multistakeholder organisations (which includes RIPE) then you probably won’t be able to easily.

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Michele

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From: Kaj Niemi <kajtzu at basen.net>
Date: Friday, 3 November 2023 at 07:14
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Yes, however, if we are on the outside looking at reducing costs, I do not think it is terribly unfair to go and ask questions like what will one get for the amount spent on a line item, don't you agree?

As for ISOC, the other RIRs seem to be in silver, bronze and copper categories which, I am guessing, have a lower cost than the highest category.

Similarly, if ICANN had total revenue of 163 million dollars in 2022, mostly consisting of registry and registrar revenue (gTLDs), they really do not need any voluntary financial support from someone else who could use that money better themselves (or not spend it at all). Unless of course we are wrong, and it is some kind of pay to play fee. Then one should be entitled to ask what one receives.

🙂



Kaj
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Kaj



ICANN and ISOC as well as some other organisations should be supported by RIPE. They might not be “perfect” but they are a large part of the reason why we are able to continue doing what we do without more regulation. At a technical level ICANN and IANA coordinate the allocation and management of names and numbers ie. IP addresses. The RIRs are not “obliged” to financially support ICANN (it’s NOT sponsorship), but they do so because they believe in the system (warts and all). The multistakeholder model of internet governance which we all benefit from is not perfect, but as long as it works and is supported then we hopefully won’t be regulated out of existence.



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Michele





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