[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024

On 28.04.2023 17:40, Kaj Niemi wrote:
> FWIW, ARIN does not seem to have a problem with charging larger 
> organizations more, see 
> https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/>

Thanks for this link.

Also I've noticed that in ARIN,
/20 up to and including /18  plus /32 up to and including /28
are referred as SMALL, with a fee of $2000, not $4000+ as proposed in 
model A.


> 
> Does anyone know whether such large orgs have more influence with ARIN? 
> Referring to the mail from the EB a few days ago, EB seems to be of the 
> opinion that RIPE NCC couldn't charge recipients of larger allocations 
> in RIPEland more than 10k because of $factors such as "these larger 
> companies would want a greater say in the organisation’s governance as a 
> result of their increased contribution".
> 
> While on that topic, I wonder why the EB recommends option 1 and thinks 
> that the smaller organizations would not want to have a larger say in 
> the organization's [RIPE's] governance as a result of their increased 
> contribution.......
> 
> But sure, we can compare service fees. It seems that the imaginary LIR 
> with IPv4 /21 + IPv4 /22 + 1 ASN + IPv6 /32 would in America,where 
> everything is huge, pay only $1000 or 908 euro annually. If you have 
> other resources, you're not getting charged for the price of an ASN.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kaj
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> *To:* Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis at v4escrow.net>
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> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of 
> Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024
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> 
>> except him and the board of an RIR that needs to spend €40m/year 
>> (double than the other RIRs - ARIN is at about $20m, LACNIC - $10m, 
>> APNIC - $21m, only the NCC needs $45m) and increase budget with 
>> 10-15%/year.
> 
> It’s not fair to compare budgets. Compare membership fees. ARIN’s fees 
> are for example higher or much higher, depending on service, while their 
> budget is half. Apples and oranges?
> 
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