[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Final RIPE NCC Charging Schemes for Members to Vote On

Greetings,

I still see an overall budget of 38M to be greatly above of what it should 
be.

Regards,
Carlos



On Fri, 28 Apr 2023, Brandon Butterworth wrote:

> This vote looks rigged (hopefully unintentionally)
>
> Vote 1:
> Model A: Category-based model, (projected income: EUR 42M)
> Model B: Continuation of the one LIR, one fee model with a 10% LIR fee price increase (projected income: EUR 42M)
> Model C: Continuation of the one LIR, one fee model with a 5% LIR fee price increase (projected income: EUR 40M)
> Model D: Continuation of the one LIR, one fee model that is exactly the same as the 2023 model (projected income: EUR 38M)
>
> Three of the choices divide the vote for the current model while the
> one alternative model is category based with unfavourable lower
> category pricing, there is no per IP model choice.
>
> The categories are break even vs the current model at around category 3
> to 4 while category 3 and below are 67.78% of membership.
>
> Thus it appears this is set up to ensure model A wins - the non A vote
> is split 3 ways making it quite unlikely to get close to model A votes
> where the categories favour the bulk of members who joined in the run
> out IP grab race.
>
> Per IP the lower categories are paying a lot more, it just happens that
> is currently lower than the existing model. This may not continue in
> the future. When a lot of these LIRs close, as RIPE are expecting in
> requesting this model change, then those remaining in the lower
> categories will shoulder an even larger portion of the costs. Be
> careful what you vote for, you could end up paying a lot more later.
>
> This vote also ensures RIPE will get a 10% rise in income, these is no
> model that is likely to get sufficient votes to avoid that.
>
> Now I don't mind that 10% increase as an RPI thing but that could have
> been done by just adding RPI this year and not greatly distorting the
> cost model fairness to achieve it.
>
> Model A is turkeys voting for xmas.
>
> A more reasonable vote is A vs D with a separate vote on allowing
> a 5 or 10% increase on D should it be chosen as that gives those
> who think the budget has grown too large on the back of the IP
> runout race a way to experess that.
>
> brandon
>
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