[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Consultation on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024

On Sat, 11 Mar 2023, at 21:14, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote:
> On 3/8/23 15:14, Sander Steffann wrote:
>> 
>> I feel this model double-charges for PI and ASN. LIRs with many of those resources both pay €50 per resource, and also run the risk of being pushed up into a higher category. I strongly feel that PI and ASN should be excluded from the category score calculation.

> Absolutely!

This looks like double charge to me as well.

> I'm also wondering why out of the sudden there should be a fee for ASNs 
> - to the best of my knowledge they aren't as scarce resources, not even 
> the 16bit ASNs.
>
> So I strongly object to introducing charges for ASNs here and also 
> strongly object to having sponsored resources count into the number of 
> resources used to decide which category an LIR falls into (IF this was 
> considered a good way forward)

this is something not quite obvious from the calculator and description -- would like NCC to clarify.   Are we going to count other parties’ resources when assessing our fees?

> As of today I have to say "No" to both proposals though, as I don't see 
> how just increasing costs and thereby impacting smaller LIRs (who might 
> sponsor a number of resources) can be a way forward.

Likewise.