This archive is retained to ensure existing URLs remain functional. It will not contain any emails sent to this mailing list after July 1, 2024. For all messages, including those sent before and after this date, please visit the new location of the archive at https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/members-discuss@ripe.net/
[members-discuss] Board minutes regarding investigation
- Previous message (by thread): [members-discuss] Board minutes regarding investigation
- Next message (by thread): [members-discuss] Board minutes regarding investigation
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
Dmitry Kohmanyuk
dk at hostmaster.ua
Tue Jan 24 10:00:58 CET 2023
On 2023-01-19, at 15:37, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote: > > i am saddened to say that i share sander's concerns and questions. > > we have a serious problem, and not addressing it will have very > unpleasant consequences for the ncc and for the community. we have an issue in our community and people are discussing it. we discuss circumstances, investigation, outcome, and further actions. it is like talking about security incident in IT world. but it is not a security incident -- or rather it is, just not about computer systems security. it is one related to human security -- does one feel safe at the office and what happens if one feel threatened. we have elected representatives, code of conduct, and some long traditions of unrestricted communication. at the same time we do not seem to have a tradition of bringing justice to a human conflict. i am a mathematical graduate, i do prefer formulas, axioms and theorems and formal procedures to achieve goals and guarantee results. unfortunately in this case, its all about feelings, emotions, and human power - not KPIs and rules. if we cannot make our organization members to feel safe, we have failed as organization. for very long time, people were divided into classes and castes, nobility had more rights than peasants, knights were allowed to carry weapons, and women were not allowed to have property and vote. should the community have levels of power or levels of immunity that differ for different people? when one hires legal counsel, those are usually tasked to protect the liability of paying party. i am sure we have achieved that, with the cost being shifted to the membership, or perhaps later to the insurance company. this whole story does not make me feel right. if the non-decision takes a year, how long a decision does? or are we in post-decision state already? Board, please come out of comfort zone and act.
- Previous message (by thread): [members-discuss] Board minutes regarding investigation
- Next message (by thread): [members-discuss] Board minutes regarding investigation
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]