[members-discuss] [ripe-list] A frank discussion

Hi Nabeel:



The letter was published on 12th July(signed by APNIC Paul Wilson, LACNIC Oscar Robles, ARIN John Curran RIPE Hans Peter Hollen):



https://www.nro.net/nro-letter-to-mauritius-government/



In the letter, NRO request to make RIR "international organisation" to achieve "better outcome".


on September 8th, the Mauritius government rejected a request from AFRINIC to become an "international organization"

https://www.nrs.help/post/is-afrinic-going-to-become-a-specialized-agency-of-the-united-nation (official statement is at the bottom of this post)





In its rejection letter, the Mauritius government mentioned that AFRINIC's request was

1. made on 7th March 2022

2. Based on the "international organisations and conferences (privileges and immunities) act".

 

With regards to the second reason, here's more information:

According to the "international organisations and conferences (privileges and immunities) act" (link below), International organization means "specialized agency of the United Nations", and ITU is a "specialized agency of the United Nations".



https://attorneygeneral.govmu.org/Documents/Laws%20of%20Mauritius/A-Z%20Acts/I/In/INTERNATIONAL%20ORGANISATIONS%20AND%20CONFERENCES%20(PRIVILEGES%20AND%20IMMUNITIES)%20ACT.pdf

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---- On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:49:36 +0800 NABEEL YASIN MOHAMMED AMIN <nabeelyasin at hotmail.com> wrote ---



Hi Lu



This is really strange request , so what was the justification or excuse for this letter.



Regards



Nabeel Yasin








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Hi Nabeel:



The NRO send a letter to mauritus goverment request to be specialized agency of United nation and get immunity for RIR leadership without community knowledge, that is issue we discuss here.







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---- On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:46:56 +0800 mailto:nabeelyasin at hotmail.com<mailto:nabeelyasin at hotmail.com> wrote ----



Dear All 



Is there any a proposal or any political influences that RIR should be controlled by the ITU qor any other intergovernmental agency , or what exactly is being discussed over here ?!



Thank you and best regards



Nabeel Yasin

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Hi sander:



Sending letter request to be specialized agency of United nation is “work with” government? 



If being specialized agency of United nation is not controlled by inter governmental body I don’t know what is.



No, I am not confused here, you probably(intentionally) are.



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---- On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:08:02 +0800 Sander Steffann<mailto:sander at steffann.nl> wrote ----





Hi Lu,



So you do support RIR to be ITU and controlled by UN




You seem to (intentionally?) confuse “work together with” and “being controlled by”. Please don’t. 



Cheers,

Sander
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