[members-discuss] Reply: Reply: A request to terminate ENOG

Mikael,
The main problem is we don't know WHO is brainwashed.
Do you? 
Saturday, 05 March 2022, 09:57PM +03:00 from Mikael mk. Krantz  mikael at noackgroup.se :

>Hi,
> 
>In what way is Russia doing a good thing ? Even if they are totally brainwashed they cannot be that stupid they believe whats sent on tv 100% and why support them in the situation going
> on now? Sounds just stupid.
> 
>Sorry to say it Putin should have his head shot off.
> 
>Regards,
>Mikael
> 
>Från: members-discuss < members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> För  Amministrazione Viama srl
>Skickat: Saturday, 5 March 2022 19:45
>Till: alex < alex at mac3.ru>
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>Ämne: Re: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG
> 
>Alex I would instead support Russia because many or to precise better, no one understand really what happening.
> 
>I stand with Russia. It's my personal opinion.
> 
>Thanks Russia.
> 
>Il 5 mar 2022 13:01, alex < alex at mac3.ru> ha scritto:
>>It is funny to watch how some sponsoring LIR members, who receive money from Russian companies display hate against Russia. Feeling comfortable sitting on two chairs, eh?
>>Alexey Berezhnev CEO 
>>MACTREE SYSTEMS
>>79032697800
>>alex at mac3.ru
>> 
>>oh those sweet dreams…….
>>
>> 
>>>Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 12:44 +03:00 от Mikael mk. Krantz < mikael at noackgroup.se> :
>>> 
>>>I would like to see the shutdown of internet to Russia. Shutdown of all LIR's connected to Russia and I would like all the ip-resources taken back from Russia.
>>>There is no point letting them use the resources that Europe gives them. Let them fall into a isolated country without any access to resources from the rest of the world.
>>>Let them freeze let them have no money. Let them have no access or ability to travel to any nice warm country.
>>>
>>>Just shut them down.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>mikael krantz
>>>
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>>>I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances.
> When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I
> cant't believe my eyes.
>
> The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely
> different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass.
> Take off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses,
> cluster bombs kill children.
>
> And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality.
>
> If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm
> them. Go to work!
>
> --
> Stary Bezpiek
>
> Слава Україні!
> русский корабль иди нахуй!
>
> W dniu  05.03.2022 o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze:
>>
>> The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The
>> Russian army is  killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE
>> standup and be counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel
>> isolated. Close all ties with Russia.
>>
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>> *From:*members-discuss < members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf
>> Of *C A
>> *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42
>> *To:* NOC < noc at medsigroup.ru>
>> *Cc:* ENOG < enog at ripe.net> ;  discuss at enog.org ; Members Discuss
>>< members-discuss at ripe.net> ; RIPE Programme Committee < pc at ripe.net> ;
>> support at voks.ua ; ENOG Programme Committee < pc at enog.org> ;
>> exec-board at ripe.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
>>
>> Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox?
>>
>> The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair.
>>
>> If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack
>> of participation.
>>
>> Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains.
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, < noc at medsigroup.ru> wrote:
>>
>>      Спасибо, что поправили.
>>      ?
>>
>>
>>      С уважением,
>>      Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич
>>
>>      Руководитель проектов
>>      Департамента развития инфраструктуры
>>      Блока по информационным технологиям
>>      АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»
>>      тел.  +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб.  11011
>>      моб. +7 (915) 119-89-58
>>
>>       www.medsi.ru< http://www.medsi.ru>
>>
>>
>>      -----Original Message-----
>>      From:  ripe at voks.ua [mailto: ripe at voks.ua ]
>>      Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM
>>      To: NOC < noc at medsigroup.ru>
>>      Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko < nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com> ;
>>       exec-board at ripe.net ; ENOG < enog at ripe.net> ; discuss at enog.org ;
>>      Members Discuss < members-discuss at ripe.net> ; RIPE Programme
>>      Committee < pc at ripe.net> ; ENOG Programme Committee < pc at enog.org>
>>      Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
>>
>>      Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не
>>      так ли?
>>
>>      --
>>       www.voks.ua< http://www.voks.ua>
>>
>>      On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote
>>      > Добрый вечер!
>>      > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы!
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > С уважением,
>>      > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич
>>      >
>>      > Руководитель проектов
>>      > Департамента развития инфраструктуры
>>      > Блока по информационным технологиям
>>      > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»
>>      > тел.  +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб.  11011
>>      > www.medsi.ru< http://www.medsi.ru>
>>      >
>>      > -----Original Message-----
>>      > From: members-discuss
>> [mailto: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net ] On
>>      > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko
>>      > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM
>>      > To:  exec-board at ripe.net ; ENOG < enog at ripe.net> ;
>> discuss at enog.org ;
>>      > Members Discuss < members-discuss at ripe.net> ; RIPE Programme
>>      Committee
>>      >< pc at ripe.net> ; ENOG Programme Committee < pc at enog.org>
>>      > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
>>      >
>>      > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of
>>      ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures.
>>      > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community,
>>      reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official
>>      position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.
>>      >
>>      > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult
>> emotional
>>      state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their
>>      ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this
>> matter
>>      in the fall.
>>      > I hope by this time the events will have settled down.
>>      >
>>      > Peace for all, NO TO WAR.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
>>      >> Peace,
>>      >> (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will
>> ever
>>      be, —
>>      >> because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
>>      >>
>>      >> As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network
>>      Operators
>>      >> Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that
>>      the RIPE
>>      >> Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the
>>      potential
>>      >> future meetings indefinitely.
>>      >>
>>      >> Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the
>> RIPE
>>      >> Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating
>>      Ukrainian,
>>      >> Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other
>>      >> regional communities in the hope of building a better shared
>>      >> Internet space among the communities.
>>      >>
>>      >> In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events),
>> the
>>      >> said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way
>> it
>>      could
>>      >> be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a
>> programme
>>      for
>>      >> all the distinct and divided communities colloqually
>>      recognized as
>>      >> ENOG at the time.
>>      >>
>>      >> Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this
>>      >> should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however,
>> we
>>      >> currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile
>>      attacks_,
>>      >> and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote
>>      in the PC.
>>      >>
>>      >> Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I
>> don't
>>      >> believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire
>> RIPE
>>      >> Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further
>> due
>>      >> diligence, to hold any official community position in the
>> RIPE
>>      >> community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.
>>      >>
>>      >> It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board
>> to
>>      decide
>>      >> on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board
>> to
>>      act.
>>      >> It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to
>> consider any
>>      >> future alignments to replace ENOG.
>>      >>
>>      >> Stay safe.
>>      >>
>>      >> --
>>      >> Töma
>>      >>
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