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Alexander Shikov
a.shikov at itcons.net.ua
Sat Mar 5 20:10:54 CET 2022
Did your grandpa support Hitler? On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 19:44:34 +0100, Amministrazione Viama srl wrote: > Alex I would instead support Russia because many or to precise better, no one understand > really what happening. > I stand with Russia. It's my personal opinion. > Thanks Russia. > > Il 5 mar 2022 13:01, alex <alex at mac3.ru> ha scritto: > > It is funny to watch how some sponsoring LIR members, who receive money from Russian > companies display hate against Russia. Feeling comfortable sitting on two chairs, eh? > Alexey Berezhnev CEO > MACTREE SYSTEMS > [1]79032697800 > [2]alex at mac3.ru > > oh those sweet dreams……. > > Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 12:44 +03:00 от Mikael mk. Krantz <[3]mikael at noackgroup.se>: > > I would like to see the shutdown of internet to Russia. Shutdown of all LIR's connected to > Russia and I would like all the ip-resources taken back from Russia. > There is no point letting them use the resources that Europe gives them. Let them fall into > a isolated country without any access to resources from the rest of the world. > Let them freeze let them have no money. Let them have no access or ability to travel to any > nice warm country. > Just shut them down. > Regards > mikael krantz > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: members-discuss <[4]members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> För alex > Skickat: Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:30 > Till: members-discuss <[5]members-discuss at ripe.net> > Ämne: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG > I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances. > > When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I > > cant't believe my eyes. > > > > The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely > > different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass. > > Take off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses, > > cluster bombs kill children. > > > > And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality. > > > > If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm > > them. Go to work! > > > > -- > > Stary Bezpiek > > > > Слава Україні! > > русский корабль иди нахуй! > > > > W dniu [6]05.03.2022 o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze: > > > > > > The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The > > > Russian army is killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE > > > standup and be counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel > > > isolated. Close all ties with Russia. > > > > > > George Porter > > > > > > ins 100x120 > > > > > > Integrated Network Services Ltd > > > > > > [7]01928 238390 > > > > > > [8]07956592260 > > > > > > [9]george.porter at in-services.co.uk > > > > > > SUPPLY - INSTALL - SUPPORT > > > > > > [10]www.in-services.co.uk <[11]http://www.in-services.co.uk> > > > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > > > for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you > > > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please > > > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this > > > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail > > > transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > > > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive > > > late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does > > > not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of > > > this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. > > > Integrated Network Services Limited, The Heath Business Park, > > > Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 4QX. Tel [12]01928 238390. Registered in England [13]7360277. > > > > > > *From:*members-discuss <[14]members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf > > > Of *C A > > > *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42 > > > *To:* NOC <[15]noc at medsigroup.ru> > > > *Cc:* ENOG <[16]enog at ripe.net>; [17]discuss at enog.org; Members Discuss > > > <[18]members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme Committee <[19]pc at ripe.net>; > > > [20]support at voks.ua; ENOG Programme Committee <[21]pc at enog.org>; > > > [22]exec-board at ripe.net > > > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG > > > > > > Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox? > > > > > > The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair. > > > > > > If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack > > > of participation. > > > > > > Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains. > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, <[23]noc at medsigroup.ru> wrote: > > > > > > Спасибо, что поправили. > > > ? > > > > > > > > > С уважением, > > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич > > > > > > Руководитель проектов > > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры > > > Блока по информационным технологиям > > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» > > > тел. [24]+7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. [25]11011 > > > моб.[26]+7 (915) 119-89-58 > > > > > > [27]www.medsi.ru <[28]http://www.medsi.ru> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [29]ripe at voks.ua [mailto:[30]ripe at voks.ua] > > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM > > > To: NOC <[31]noc at medsigroup.ru> > > > Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <[32]nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>; > > > [33]exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <[34]enog at ripe.net>; [35]discuss at enog.org; > > > Members Discuss <[36]members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme > > > Committee <[37]pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <[38]pc at enog.org> > > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG > > > > > > Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не > > > так ли? > > > > > > -- > > > [39]www.voks.ua <[40]http://www.voks.ua> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote > > > > Добрый вечер! > > > > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы! > > > > > > > > > > > > С уважением, > > > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич > > > > > > > > Руководитель проектов > > > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры > > > > Блока по информационным технологиям > > > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» > > > > тел. [41]+7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. [42]11011 > > > > [43]www.medsi.ru <[44]http://www.medsi.ru> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: members-discuss > > >[mailto:[45]members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On > > > > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko > > > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM > > > > To: [46]exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <[47]enog at ripe.net>; > > >[48]discuss at enog.org; > > > > Members Discuss <[49]members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme > > > Committee > > > > <[50]pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <[51]pc at enog.org> > > > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG > > > > > > > > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of > > > ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures. > > > > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, > > > reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official > > > position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all. > > > > > > > > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult > > >emotional > > > state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their > > > ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this > > >matter > > > in the fall. > > > > I hope by this time the events will have settled down. > > > > > > > > Peace for all, NO TO WAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > > > > Peace, > > > > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will > > >ever > > > be, — > > > > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) > > > > > > > > > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network > > > Operators > > > > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that > > > the RIPE > > > > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the > > > potential > > > > > future meetings indefinitely. > > > > > > > > > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the > > >RIPE > > > > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating > > > Ukrainian, > > > > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other > > > > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared > > > > > Internet space among the communities. > > > > > > > > > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), > > >the > > > > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way > > >it > > > could > > > > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a > > >programme > > > for > > > > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually > > > recognized as > > > > > ENOG at the time. > > > > > > > > > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this > > > > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, > > >we > > > > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile > > > attacks_, > > > > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote > > > in the PC. > > > > > > > > > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I > > >don't > > > > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire > > >RIPE > > > > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further > > >due > > > > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the > > >RIPE > > > > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair. > > > > > > > > > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board > > >to > > > decide > > > > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board > > >to > > > act. > > > > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to > > >consider any > > > > > future alignments to replace ENOG. > > > > > > > > > > Stay safe. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Töma > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > members-discuss mailing list > > > > > [52]members-discuss at ripe.net > > > > > [53]https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > > > > > > > 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