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galimov_artem at mail.ru
Sat Mar 5 13:12:47 CET 2022
Alex, it was a kind of sarcasm to all this schizophrenia >Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 15:02 +03:00 от alex <alex at mac3.ru>: > >It is funny to watch how some sponsoring LIR members, who receive money from Russian companies display hate against Russia. Feeling comfortable sitting on two chairs, eh? >Alexey Berezhnev CEO >MACTREE SYSTEMS >79032697800 >alex at mac3.ru > >>oh those sweet dreams……. >> >> >>>Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 12:44 +03:00 от Mikael mk. Krantz < mikael at noackgroup.se >: >>> >>>I would like to see the shutdown of internet to Russia. Shutdown of all LIR's connected to Russia and I would like all the ip-resources taken back from Russia. >>>There is no point letting them use the resources that Europe gives them. Let them fall into a isolated country without any access to resources from the rest of the world. >>>Let them freeze let them have no money. Let them have no access or ability to travel to any nice warm country. >>> >>>Just shut them down. >>> >>>Regards >>>mikael krantz >>> >>>-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>Från: members-discuss < members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net > För alex >>>Skickat: Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:30 >>>Till: members-discuss < members-discuss at ripe.net > >>>Ämne: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG >>> >>>I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances. >>>> When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I >>>> cant't believe my eyes. >>>> >>>> The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely >>>> different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass. >>>> Take off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses, >>>> cluster bombs kill children. >>>> >>>> And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality. >>>> >>>> If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm >>>> them. Go to work! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stary Bezpiek >>>> >>>> Слава Україні! >>>> русский корабль иди нахуй! >>>> >>>> W dniu 05.03.2022 o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze: >>>> > >>>> > The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The >>>> > Russian army is killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE >>>> > standup and be counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel >>>> > isolated. Close all ties with Russia. >>>> > >>>> > George Porter >>>> > >>>> > ins 100x120 >>>> > >>>> > Integrated Network Services Ltd >>>> > >>>> > 01928 238390 >>>> > >>>> > 07956592260 >>>> > >>>> > george.porter at in-services.co.uk >>>> > >>>> > SUPPLY - INSTALL - SUPPORT >>>> > >>>> > www.in-services.co.uk < http://www.in-services.co.uk > >>>> > >>>> > This message contains confidential information and is intended only >>>> > for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you >>>> > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please >>>> > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this >>>> > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail >>>> > transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as >>>> > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive >>>> > late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does >>>> > not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of >>>> > this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. >>>> > Integrated Network Services Limited, The Heath Business Park, >>>> > Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 4QX. Tel 01928 238390 . Registered in England 7360277 . >>>> > >>>> > *From:*members-discuss < members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net > *On Behalf >>>> > Of *C A >>>> > *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42 >>>> > *To:* NOC < noc at medsigroup.ru > >>>> > *Cc:* ENOG < enog at ripe.net >; discuss at enog.org ; Members Discuss >>>> > < members-discuss at ripe.net >; RIPE Programme Committee < pc at ripe.net >; >>>> > support at voks.ua ; ENOG Programme Committee < pc at enog.org >; >>>> > exec-board at ripe.net >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >>>> > >>>> > Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox? >>>> > >>>> > The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair. >>>> > >>>> > If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack >>>> > of participation. >>>> > >>>> > Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains. >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, < noc at medsigroup.ru > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Спасибо, что поправили. >>>> > ? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > С уважением, >>>> > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >>>> > >>>> > Руководитель проектов >>>> > Департамента развития инфраструктуры >>>> > Блока по информационным технологиям >>>> > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >>>> > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >>>> > моб. +7 (915) 119-89-58 >>>> > >>>> > www.medsi.ru < http://www.medsi.ru > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: ripe at voks.ua [mailto: ripe at voks.ua ] >>>> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM >>>> > To: NOC < noc at medsigroup.ru > >>>> > Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko < nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com >; >>>> > exec-board at ripe.net ; ENOG < enog at ripe.net >; discuss at enog.org ; >>>> > Members Discuss < members-discuss at ripe.net >; RIPE Programme >>>> > Committee < pc at ripe.net >; ENOG Programme Committee < pc at enog.org > >>>> > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >>>> > >>>> > Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не >>>> > так ли? >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > www.voks.ua < http://www.voks.ua > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote >>>> > > Добрый вечер! >>>> > > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы! >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > С уважением, >>>> > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >>>> > > >>>> > > Руководитель проектов >>>> > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры >>>> > > Блока по информационным технологиям >>>> > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >>>> > > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >>>> > > www.medsi.ru < http://www.medsi.ru > >>>> > > >>>> > > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > From: members-discuss >>>> >[mailto: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net ] On >>>> > > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko >>>> > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM >>>> > > To: exec-board at ripe.net ; ENOG < enog at ripe.net >; >>>> > discuss at enog.org ; >>>> > > Members Discuss < members-discuss at ripe.net >; RIPE Programme >>>> > Committee >>>> > > < pc at ripe.net >; ENOG Programme Committee < pc at enog.org > >>>> > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >>>> > > >>>> > > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of >>>> > ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures. >>>> > > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, >>>> > reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official >>>> > position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all. >>>> > > >>>> > > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult >>>> >emotional >>>> > state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their >>>> > ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this >>>> >matter >>>> > in the fall. >>>> > > I hope by this time the events will have settled down. >>>> > > >>>> > > Peace for all, NO TO WAR. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: >>>> > > > Peace, >>>> > > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will >>>> >ever >>>> > be, — >>>> > > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) >>>> > > > >>>> > > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network >>>> > Operators >>>> > > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that >>>> > the RIPE >>>> > > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the >>>> > potential >>>> > > > future meetings indefinitely. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the >>>> >RIPE >>>> > > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating >>>> > Ukrainian, >>>> > > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other >>>> > > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared >>>> > > > Internet space among the communities. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), >>>> >the >>>> > > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way >>>> >it >>>> > could >>>> > > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a >>>> >programme >>>> > for >>>> > > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually >>>> > recognized as >>>> > > > ENOG at the time. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this >>>> > > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, >>>> >we >>>> > > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile >>>> > attacks_, >>>> > > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote >>>> > in the PC. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I >>>> >don't >>>> > > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire >>>> >RIPE >>>> > > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further >>>> >due >>>> > > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the >>>> >RIPE >>>> > > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board >>>> >to >>>> > decide >>>> > > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board >>>> >to >>>> > act. >>>> > > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to >>>> >consider any >>>> > > > future alignments to replace ENOG. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Stay safe. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > -- >>>> > > > Töma >>>> > > > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > > members-discuss mailing list >>>> > > > members-discuss at ripe.net >>>> > > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> > > > Unsubscribe: >>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/nuclearcat%40 >>>> > > > nu >>>> > > > clearcat.com < http://clearcat.com > >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > members-discuss mailing list >>>> > > members-discuss at ripe.net >>>> > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> > > Unsubscribe: >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/noc%40medsigro >>>> >u >>>> > > p.ru < http://p.ru > >>>> >_______________________________________________ >>>> > > members-discuss mailing list >>>> > > members-discuss at ripe.net >>>> > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> > > Unsubscribe: >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe%40voks.ua >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > members-discuss mailing list >>>> > members-discuss at ripe.net >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> > Unsubscribe: >>>> > >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a0044c%40gmail >>>> >.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > members-discuss mailing list >>>> > members-discuss at ripe.net >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> > Unsubscribe: >>>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/stary.bezpiec >>>> > znik%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> members-discuss mailing list >>>> members-discuss at ripe.net >>>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/alex%40mac3.ru >>>_______________________________________________ >>>members-discuss mailing list >>>members-discuss at ripe.net >>>https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>>Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/artem%40chudotelecom.ru >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >members-discuss mailing list >members-discuss at ripe.net >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/galimov_artem%40mail.ru -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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