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alex
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Sat Mar 5 13:01:08 CET 2022
It is funny to watch how some sponsoring LIR members, who receive money from Russian companies display hate against Russia. Feeling comfortable sitting on two chairs, eh? > oh those sweet dreams……. > > >> >> Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 12:44 +03:00 от Mikael mk. Krantz <mikael at noackgroup.se>: >> >> I would like to see the shutdown of internet to Russia. Shutdown of all LIR's connected to Russia and I would like all the ip-resources taken back from Russia. >> There is no point letting them use the resources that Europe gives them. Let them fall into a isolated country without any access to resources from the rest of the world. >> Let them freeze let them have no money. Let them have no access or ability to travel to any nice warm country. >> >> Just shut them down. >> >> Regards >> mikael krantz >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> För alex >> Skickat: Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:30 >> Till: members-discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net> >> Ämne: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG >> >> I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances. >> > When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I >> > cant't believe my eyes. >> > >> > The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely >> > different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass. >> > Take off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses, >> > cluster bombs kill children. >> > >> > And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality. >> > >> > If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm >> > them. Go to work! >> > >> > -- >> > Stary Bezpiek >> > >> > Слава Україні! >> > русский корабль иди нахуй! >> > >> > W dniu 05.03.2022 o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze: >> > > >> > > The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The >> > > Russian army is killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE >> > > standup and be counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel >> > > isolated. Close all ties with Russia. >> > > >> > > George Porter >> > > >> > > ins 100x120 >> > > >> > > Integrated Network Services Ltd >> > > >> > > 01928 238390 >> > > >> > > 07956592260 >> > > >> > > george.porter at in-services.co.uk >> > > >> > > SUPPLY - INSTALL - SUPPORT >> > > >> > > www.in-services.co.uk <http://www.in-services.co.uk> >> > > >> > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only >> > > for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you >> > > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please >> > > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this >> > > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail >> > > transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as >> > > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive >> > > late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does >> > > not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of >> > > this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. >> > > Integrated Network Services Limited, The Heath Business Park, >> > > Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 4QX. Tel 01928 238390. Registered in England 7360277. >> > > >> > > *From:*members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf >> > > Of *C A >> > > *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42 >> > > *To:* NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru> >> > > *Cc:* ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; Members Discuss >> > > <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme Committee <pc at ripe.net>; >> > > support at voks.ua; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org>; >> > > exec-board at ripe.net >> > > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >> > > >> > > Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox? >> > > >> > > The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair. >> > > >> > > If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack >> > > of participation. >> > > >> > > Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains. >> > > >> > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, <noc at medsigroup.ru> wrote: >> > > >> > > Спасибо, что поправили. >> > > ? >> > > >> > > >> > > С уважением, >> > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >> > > >> > > Руководитель проектов >> > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры >> > > Блока по информационным технологиям >> > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >> > > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >> > > моб.+7 (915) 119-89-58 >> > > >> > > www.medsi.ru <http://www.medsi.ru> >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: ripe at voks.ua [mailto:ripe at voks.ua] >> > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM >> > > To: NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru> >> > > Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>; >> > > exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; >> > > Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme >> > > Committee <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org> >> > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >> > > >> > > Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не >> > > так ли? >> > > >> > > -- >> > > www.voks.ua <http://www.voks.ua> >> > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote >> > > > Добрый вечер! >> > > > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы! >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > С уважением, >> > > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >> > > > >> > > > Руководитель проектов >> > > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры >> > > > Блока по информационным технологиям >> > > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >> > > > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >> > > > www.medsi.ru <http://www.medsi.ru> >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: members-discuss >> > >[mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On >> > > > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko >> > > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM >> > > > To: exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; >> > >discuss at enog.org; >> > > > Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme >> > > Committee >> > > > <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org> >> > > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >> > > > >> > > > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of >> > > ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures. >> > > > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, >> > > reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official >> > > position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all. >> > > > >> > > > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult >> > >emotional >> > > state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their >> > > ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this >> > >matter >> > > in the fall. >> > > > I hope by this time the events will have settled down. >> > > > >> > > > Peace for all, NO TO WAR. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: >> > > > > Peace, >> > > > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will >> > >ever >> > > be, — >> > > > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) >> > > > > >> > > > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network >> > > Operators >> > > > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that >> > > the RIPE >> > > > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the >> > > potential >> > > > > future meetings indefinitely. >> > > > > >> > > > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the >> > >RIPE >> > > > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating >> > > Ukrainian, >> > > > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other >> > > > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared >> > > > > Internet space among the communities. >> > > > > >> > > > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), >> > >the >> > > > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way >> > >it >> > > could >> > > > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a >> > >programme >> > > for >> > > > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually >> > > recognized as >> > > > > ENOG at the time. >> > > > > >> > > > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this >> > > > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, >> > >we >> > > > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile >> > > attacks_, >> > > > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote >> > > in the PC. >> > > > > >> > > > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I >> > >don't >> > > > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire >> > >RIPE >> > > > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further >> > >due >> > > > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the >> > >RIPE >> > > > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair. >> > > > > >> > > > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board >> > >to >> > > decide >> > > > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board >> > >to >> > > act. >> > > > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to >> > >consider any >> > > > > future alignments to replace ENOG. >> > > > > >> > > > > Stay safe. >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Töma >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > members-discuss mailing list >> > > > > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > > > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > > > > Unsubscribe: >> > > > > >> > > >> > >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/nuclearcat%40 >> > > > > nu >> > > > > clearcat.com <http://clearcat.com> >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > members-discuss mailing list >> > > > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > > > Unsubscribe: >> > > > >> > > >> > >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/noc%40medsigro >> > >u >> > > > p.ru <http://p.ru> >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > > > members-discuss mailing list >> > > > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > > > Unsubscribe: >> > > > >> > > >> > >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe%40voks.ua >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > members-discuss mailing list >> > > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > > Unsubscribe: >> > > >> > >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a0044c%40gmail >> > >.com >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > members-discuss mailing list >> > > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > > Unsubscribe: >> > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/stary.bezpiec >> > > znik%40gmail.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > members-discuss mailing list >> > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > Unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/alex%40mac3.ru >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/artem%40chudotelecom.ru > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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