[members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
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Alex Samorukov
samm at net-art.cz
Fri Mar 4 21:38:58 CET 2022
How do you see _community_ event with terro russia? Sharing experience of reparing internet under military attacks on civic objects? WIFI performance in undeground shelters? Broken mobile network due to occupation? A lot of the technical and non-political topics, but sorry, no. And never ever again. On 04.03.2022 21:33, NOC wrote: > Спасибо, что поправили. > ? > > > С уважением, > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич > > Руководитель проектов > Департамента развития инфраструктуры > Блока по информационным технологиям > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 > моб.+7 (915) 119-89-58 > > www.medsi.ru > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ripe at voks.ua [mailto:ripe at voks.ua] > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM > To: NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru> > Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>; exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme Committee <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org> > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG > > Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не так ли? > > -- > www.voks.ua > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote >> Добрый вечер! >> А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы! >> >> >> С уважением, >> Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >> >> Руководитель проектов >> Департамента развития инфраструктуры >> Блока по информационным технологиям >> АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >> тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >> www.medsi.ru >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On >> Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko >> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM >> To: exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; >> Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme Committee >> <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org> >> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >> >> If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures. >> When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all. >> >> Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter in the fall. >> I hope by this time the events will have settled down. >> >> Peace for all, NO TO WAR. >> >> >> On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: >>> Peace, >>> (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, — >>> because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) >>> >>> As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators >>> Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE >>> Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential >>> future meetings indefinitely. >>> >>> Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE >>> Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, >>> Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other >>> regional communities in the hope of building a better shared >>> Internet space among the communities. >>> >>> In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the >>> said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could >>> be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for >>> all the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as >>> ENOG at the time. >>> >>> Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this >>> should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we >>> currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, >>> and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC. >>> >>> Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't >>> believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE >>> Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due >>> diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE >>> community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair. >>> >>> It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide >>> on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act. >>> It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any >>> future alignments to replace ENOG. >>> >>> Stay safe. >>> >>> -- >>> Töma >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> members-discuss mailing list >>> members-discuss at ripe.net >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/nuclearcat%40 >>> nu >>> clearcat.com >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/noc%40medsigrou >> p.ru _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe%40voks.ua > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/samm%40net-art.cz
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