[members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG

How do you see _community_ event with terro russia? Sharing experience 
of reparing internet under military attacks on civic objects? WIFI 
performance in undeground shelters? Broken mobile network due to 
occupation?

A lot of the technical and non-political topics, but sorry, no. And 
never ever again.

On 04.03.2022 21:33, NOC wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
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> Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не так ли?
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> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote
>> Добрый вечер!
>> А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы!
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>> С уважением,
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>> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On
>> Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko
>> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
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>> If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures.
>> When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.
>>
>> Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter in the fall.
>> I hope by this time the events will have settled down.
>>
>> Peace for all, NO TO WAR.
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>>
>> On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
>>> Peace,
>>> (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, —
>>> because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
>>>
>>> As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators
>>> Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE
>>> Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential
>>> future meetings indefinitely.
>>>
>>> Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE
>>> Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian,
>>> Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other
>>> regional communities in the hope of building a better shared
>>> Internet space among the communities.
>>>
>>> In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the
>>> said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could
>>> be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for
>>> all the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as
>>> ENOG at the time.
>>>
>>> Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this
>>> should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we
>>> currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_,
>>> and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC.
>>>
>>> Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't
>>> believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE
>>> Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due
>>> diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE
>>> community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.
>>>
>>> It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide
>>> on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act.
>>> It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any
>>> future alignments to replace ENOG.
>>>
>>> Stay safe.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Töma
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