[members-discuss] Clarifications on NRO Letter to Mauritian Government

Dear Hans:



Thank you for your response.



Members will be interested in your views on the recent revelation that
suspended CEO of AFRINIC, Eddy, had sent a letter asking ATU to appoint
directors for AFRINIC in an attempt to avoid member elect directors.  This
plea, coupled with the NRO letter seeking diplomatic immunity for AFRINIC,
begs the question why not just let all RIR join the ITU?



You will got immunity from ITU or ATU or whichever governmental body that
will appoint directors of RIR, and no member would ever be able to find
justice in court.



The recent events and actions of AFRINIC and other RIR  defies everything
I, and some of the other members I was talking to,  learned in this
community. It goes against everything, that the bottom up and community
driven approach that Rob told me on my first day of RIPE meeting a decade
ago.



I hope to preserve the RIR system I grew up with. I hope you agree with
that desire. At the end of the day, you were there when it was created and
we need you to continue to fight for our independence from interference -
regardless of where the requests for interference come from.



With regards


Lu

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 9:05 PM Hans Petter Holen <hph at ripe.net> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I will respond where I can, although the RIPE NCC cannot speak for
> AFRINIC, and any statement on behalf of the NRO needs to be made jointly
> with the other four RIRs.
>
> First, I would like to address the concerns about the language used in the
> NRO letter to the Mauritian government. It was not written in a tone that
> we would use under ordinary circumstances. The letter could have been
> worded better in parts, and it obviously led to our message being
> misconstrued. We take note of this and will do better in this regard.
>
> Further, some of you have expressed concerns that this letter was an
> attempt by the NRO to interfere in the judicial processes of Mauritius.
> However, this was not the intention. As I said in my previous email, we
> simply wanted to lend weight to AFRINIC's request and help to ensure its
> ability to provide services to its members. In no way do we believe it is
> our place (or the NRO’s for that matter) to influence judicial processes in
> a sovereign nation.
>
> Coming to the issue of “international status” for RIRs, this status can
> mean different things under different jurisdictions. The RIPE NCC has not
> requested "international status" from any Dutch or international body. What
> such status might mean for AFRINIC would be for the Mauritian government to
> evaluate. For the RIPE NCC, you, our members, are the ultimate governing
> body, and any potential changes to our legal status would be made in
> consultation with you.
>
> I agree fully with comments that the issues with AFRINIC's governance need
> to be addressed and I want to reiterate that only the members of AFRINIC
> and the Internet community in Africa can resolve them. We encourage
> AFRINIC's members and community to contribute constructively to improve
> this situation.
>
> All our efforts have been guided by the desire to support the stability of
> the global RIR system, which as Lu correctly points out, is a global,
> bottom-up, community-driven project. This is how the Internet has been
> built and, we hope, will continue to be governed.
>
> Finally, this list is under moderation and we will continue to ensure that
> all mails that are put through to the list abide by the code of conduct.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Hans Petter Holen
> Managing Director
> RIPE NCC
>
>
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