[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Executive Board election

Respectfully there are only about 70-75 countries in RIPE as per https://www.nro.net/list-of-country-codes-in-the-ripe-ncc-region/ <https://www.nro.net/list-of-country-codes-in-the-ripe-ncc-region/> not over 100 thats some 25% or more difference - its important to be accurate with numbers and facts here.

While I agree with your premise that a very small minority of countries are exercising their voting rights, its another thing altogether to say they are blanket controlling RIPE - it just means that LIR’s in other countries are either happy with the status quo or just not interested in exercising their democratic rights as members of RIPE, if other LIR’s don’t like the situation, the solution is very simple, they need to exercise those rights more actively - and because RIPE is a democratic organisation you can’t force people to get voting like say North Korea does….


> On 15 May 2020, at 18:41, Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:
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> I’m curious to understand if there is any particular reason for this? Does one have something to hide?
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> Yes, I'm invisible.
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> I also find it exceptionally curious having now had the time to read all the profiles more carefully, to note that your Motivation and Background is the only one out of 8 candidates that attacks some other person and/or organisation as part of the motivation. All of the other candidates have the good graces and respect to focus on more positive aspects. I repeat that, You sir are the ONLYcandidate that has openly run on the basis of personal attacks? I also note that your background is 1 sentence of 2 lines, which is just a statement that doesn’t provide some reasonably traceable evidence of your actual technical and management experience. Again one is left asking the question, Does one have something to hide?
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> Untrue, only my last part was related to Christian and Maria and I brought something to the attention of the community which I believe is important, lies and dishonest between themselves towards the community - if the community are accepting such standard then it is up for the community. I was personally attacked heavily by most of the candidates. Including a fake media report that included in it a sentence that I didn't do anything illegal (in order to try to avoid from a lawsuit) but no one reads the whole article and read only the title which was intended to damage my election and succeeded. That fake report was pumped in all *NOG groups by the messengers of some of the candidates.
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> Actually I was the only one that came to member-discuss to answer any question and I could also answer any question about my background when asked in a respectful way. No other candidate did it - if that is the kind of elections the community wants it is up to you - if you decide to choose candidates based on what they are writing on themselves and not to have any interaction with them - it is up to you.
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> At the end - 3 countries decided who will be the board members and 3 countries are controlling RIPE and giving the tone in RIPE - UK, Germany and France - when there are more than 100 countries in RIPE - I'm not against these countries, I only tried to make RIPE more reflecting for all the countries - the community decided and I respect it of course. I wish good luck to the chosen candidates.
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> I am equally interested as to how you will technically achieve 0 RIPE fees yet at the same time improve SLA response time to 24 hours for RIPE tickets – on the surface they appear to be mutually exclusive targets. Don’t get me wrong I would love 0 fees to RIPE like all of us, but I am a realist – I just can’t see how you can reduce expenditure and increase other revenue outside of the fees all the same while improve response times (more staff). I am just failing to see how that would move the numbers by that large amount. I will also say good luck auditing every expense – you will fast learn that this is NOT the most efficient way to do things, and why a LOT of the “bureaucracy” exists in the first place.
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> It was intended to be over a period of time, in stages over the whole 3 years period, to make RIPE more efficient organization - through it the expenses will be lowered and then some of the left over income will be invested correctly to generate high ROI while the other part of the left over income will be used in order to lower the yearly membership fees, gradually over time, until RIPE membership fees will be $0 and it can happen with a very efficient organization.
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> To the other candidates – Kudos to you for taking the time to write out careful and reasoned motivations and providing some more useful insights into your real credentials – I wish you all the best of luck and may the best Man or Lady win and do RIPE proud!
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> 10% of the total voters voted for me, they represent 10% of the whole RIPE community. More than the initial voters of the elected #3. You say that nobody personal attacked me - but you should check the *NOG groups and how the fake media report was pumped there.
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> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of anthony.somerset at cloudunboxed.net <anthony.somerset at cloudunboxed.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:06 PM
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Fw: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>  
> Mr Cohen
>  
> I find it most interesting that your profile is the only one lacking a picture of the candidate - https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen <https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen> I’m curious to understand if there is any particular reason for this? Does one have something to hide?
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> I also find it exceptionally curious having now had the time to read all the profiles more carefully, to note that your Motivation and Background is the only one out of 8 candidates that attacks some other person and/or organisation as part of the motivation. All of the other candidates have the good graces and respect to focus on more positive aspects. I repeat that, You sir are the ONLY candidate that has openly run on the basis of personal attacks? I also note that your background is 1 sentence of 2 lines, which is just a statement that doesn’t provide some reasonably traceable evidence of your actual technical and management experience. Again one is left asking the question, Does one have something to hide?
>  
> I am equally interested as to how you will technically achieve 0 RIPE fees yet at the same time improve SLA response time to 24 hours for RIPE tickets – on the surface they appear to be mutually exclusive targets. Don’t get me wrong I would love 0 fees to RIPE like all of us, but I am a realist – I just can’t see how you can reduce expenditure and increase other revenue outside of the fees all the same while improve response times (more staff). I am just failing to see how that would move the numbers by that large amount. I will also say good luck auditing every expense – you will fast learn that this is NOT the most efficient way to do things, and why a LOT of the “bureaucracy” exists in the first place.
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> To the other candidates – Kudos to you for taking the time to write out careful and reasoned motivations and providing some more useful insights into your real credentials – I wish you all the best of luck and may the best Man or Lady win and do RIPE proud!
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> Best Regards
>  
> Anthony Somerset
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> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Elad Cohen
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:47 PM
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Subject: [members-discuss] Fw: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
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> Hello,
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> My response below to "The Ronald Show" in Nanog, if you will post his intentional lies in member-dicuss then you show also post my reply below to his lies.
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> Kind Regards,
> Elad
>  
> From: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io <mailto:elad at netstyle.io>>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:46 PM
> To: Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>>; nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org> <nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>>
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>  
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself.
>  
> What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an intentional personal attack against me and I will explain.
>  
> I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort from me - then I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to attack me (including here on Nanog, with false information, when I was out of hospital and wasn't in the condition to respond to them).
>  
> "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to their own words in their own following presentation:
>  
> https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation <https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation>
>  
> They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many internet companies and internet organizations - and then they share it in illegal way (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".
>  
> Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".
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> and that said legal counsel has then
> proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town,
> South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish
> to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block
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> This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share their internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information can email me directly.
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> "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block"
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> Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people are criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all Chicago citizens are criminals according to his statements in the following links:
> https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX <https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX>
> https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ <https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ>
> https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz <https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz>
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> Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog in the following two links, by people which are not related to me:
> https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk <https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk>
> https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz <https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz>
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>  
> In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in two antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX <https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX> ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards me - none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof against me) as was written here by them (with a popcorn).
>  
> The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account: https://twitter.com/underthebreach <https://twitter.com/underthebreach> , that person according to his own words in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof) - that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and they are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli-based company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here is a cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a business competition.
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> That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach <https://twitter.com/underthebreach> which is a member of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only person which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for commericial goals, that are many many more people and companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making profit from it, for example:
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> - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the competitors of Open-Xchange.
> - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com <https://wordtothewise.com/>)
>  
> Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project":
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> "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG) and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project")
> "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/ <https://www.invaluement.com/>)
> "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/ <https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/>)
> "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/ <https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/>)
> "Vincent Hanna" -  Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/>)
> "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/>)
> Among others.
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> Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project":
> ThreatSTOP
> FarSight Security
> Fastly
> Dyn
> Cymru
> Abusix
> Among others.
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> Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly written:
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> "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal activity in this report."
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> But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written only for Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal "cyber influence operation" to attack me without a single proof. The article was written by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob and then Ronald made this post according to the instruction from "The Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation" without a single proof.
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> Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just their front clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here without a single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple single question - "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us a single proof then please stop spamming the mailing list".
>  
> Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing:
> "less than honorable intent reach for power"
> "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them personally, to the exclusion of all else"
> "Democracy dies in darkness."
>  
> When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the whole Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be elected:
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> IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software updates and not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated - home routers and home modems which are the vast majority of routing equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and will support more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+ )
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.html <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.html>
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> Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and automatic way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project")
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.html <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.html>
>  
> Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and spoofed ip traffic with is a source for criminality:
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.html <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.html>
>  
> They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and any other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to make sure that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) - will have no footprint in RIPE.
>  
> My full agenda can be read here:
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen <https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen>
>  
> Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I will be elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and harassing many organizations and many businesses worldwide.
>  
> Kind Regards,
> Elad
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org <mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org>> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org> <nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>>
> Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>  
> Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE.
> 
> Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there will
> be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from
> now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats.
> 
> I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for
> the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal
> counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then
> proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town,
> South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish
> to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a
> block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas"
> historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been
> legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years.
> (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell,
> trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block,
> and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against
> this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.)
> 
> Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you
> be the judge.
> 
> In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all
> know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a
> number of additional startling facts relating to the people who
> nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as
> documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen:
> 
> https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip-address-organisation.html <https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip-address-organisation.html>
> 
> I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned
> in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long,
> so I'll await some explict request for that additional info.  For now
> it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more widely
> available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above link,
> IMHO.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> rfg
> 
> 
> P.S.  I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and constrained
> from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either
> partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will
> refrain from doing so.  I would be remiss hoever if I did not at least
> note in passing that history records that in times such as these, when
> people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should be,
> focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, and
> their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is elsewhere,
> persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with unfortunate
> regularity, obtain it.
> 
> I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with
> personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those
> responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet governance,
> however urgent those may appear at the moment.  For all of us, our first-
> order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues.  But for
> those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you
> consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this tool,
> this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the world,
> and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by default
> or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for them
> personally, to the exclusion of all else.
> 
> P.P.S.  I would be posting this info and the above link also to the
> very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a
> due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so.  Separately,
> due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-list
> transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been switched
> to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion of
> the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive Board
> election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, themselves,
> are now entirely off-limits.
> 
> I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw somewhere,
> not too long ago:
> 
>                  "Democracy dies in darkness."
>                                   -- anon

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