[members-discuss] Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate

First of all, RIPE doesn't own the IP addresses allocated to it. Why would you just assume they do?


Somehow you've decided that RIPE owns the IP ranges and we (LIRs) just get to borrow them from RIPE and therefore leasing a legitimately acquired block to someone else that needs it is forbidden or something. All that is completely false.


Please educate yourself by reading the relevant policies before doling out wrong advice and unnecessarily burdening RIPE with your emails (which is probably why they ignore or trash them).


-- 
Regards,
   Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
     Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.

Please quote relevant replies.
Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
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From: "Stuart Willet (primary)" <stu at safehosts.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 06:15
To: Bill Lewis; members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate

> I have a default reply for these... 
>
> Hi, 
>
> If you have unused IPv4 it should be returned to the pool. 
> RIPE own the IP addresses, not you. 
>
> I have informed RIPE of your position. 
>
> Best regards, 
>
>
> I then forward the email off to RIPE. 
> Nothing ever seems to happen though, which is odd given that RIPE are the actual owners of the IP addresses it should be simple for them to reclaim any listed as for sale or lease? 
>
>
> Best, 
>
> Stuart Willet 
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Bill Lewis 
> Sent: 08 May 2020 19:59 
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net 
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate 
>
> Hi, 
>
> Not getting this at least but have had an email from a company that leases IP4 space, sent to the email address used for our Ripe account (not on any of our IP records). 
>
> Apparently has /22 blocks they would like to rent out, surely unused blocks should be in Ripe's hands, not profiteers? 
>
> just a thought and how they gained the email address too. Anybody else had this? 
>
> Bill 
>
> On 08/05/2020 07:53, Benjamin Collet wrote: 
> > On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 08:57:28AM +0200, Clement Cavadore wrote: 
> >> I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact 
> >> emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board 
> >> candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible 
> >> and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ? 
> > I also got this email (have a guess whom it was from…). I believe this 
> > kind of mass-mailing is in direct violation of article 4 - section 4 
> > of RIPE DB terms and conditions 
> > (https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/terms). 
> > 
>
>
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