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[members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation
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Daniel Pearson
daniel at privatesystems.net
Thu May 7 17:33:21 CEST 2020
I would like to know the same as I also received a direct solicitation that is unwanted. Daniel~ On 5/7/20 4:33 AM, Sam Gaw wrote: > Sadly, moderation appears to have simply moved the problem with an > election candidate taking to mining RipeDB and spamming contacts directly. > > Can anyone advise what the procedure for reporting DB abuse is? > > > --- > Regards, > Sam Gaw > > > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 16:55, Dmitry P <head at global-data-networks.com > <mailto:head at global-data-networks.com>> wrote: > > I agree with Chris. > > Imposing moderation globally would affect freedom of expression, > resulting into censorship based on opinion of moderators, which also > could be misleading, because nothing is fully protected from the risks > related to human factor. > > The discussion should be open. A possibility of ignoring some > determined > email by one member should be enough to deal with unwanted content, > however, I believe this is already implemented by most email clients. > One could simply add an email to their ignore filter list and this is > enough in the most cases. > > On 5/4/20 8:06 AM, Chris Izzard wrote: > > Dear Piotr, > > Reading this it sounds great at first but whatever > you do to stop such huge email chains will always look like > censorship whatever you like to call it. Such email lists do > depend on the behaviour of everyone to follow a code but in > practice this is usually not 100% possible. > > Yes it seemed that the email list was mostly in favour of > censoring one person but the reality is that the vast majority > just watched on and said nothing. In practice censoring damages > the democratic credentials of this group because a small number of > people have made the decision to do this and an even smaller > number of people will police it. > > This action has put the Executive Board in a dangerous position > open to all kinds of criticism and the email chain contained some > pretty bad claims like Anti-Semitism. > > > > To make things much more simple and leave the censorship to the > individual we could learn from Facebook. > > If a post is made in Facebook and you do not want to keep > getting posts the individual can turn off notifications without > stopping the discussion for the rest of the people i.e. The vast > majority. Remember there are hundreds of people who just observed > and did not make a comment but may be interested in both sides of > the discussion. To do this before an election is not a good idea > at all, remember Russian interference in the US and UK elections > claims? It has not gone away. > > This simple process would mean that for 99% of issues discussed > the small censoring committee would not be needed except for > personal abuse and offensive language. > > It also means that people do not have to unsubscribe to the list > permanently just for the email chain. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > Regards > > > > Chris Izzard > > Director of Commercial Operations > > IMC Island Ehf > > Skipholt 50b > > 105 Reykjavik > > Iceland > > PLMN Code: ISLVW > > Mob: +44 7968 602 280 > > Mob: +354 389013 343 > > Skype: chris.izzard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> On Behalf Of Piotr > Strzyzewski > > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 16:48 > > To: members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > > Subject: [members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation > > > > Dear members, > > > > Today, the Executive Board held a formal meeting in order to > officially resolve the appointment of Hans Petter Holen as > Managing Director of the RIPE NCC. > > > > In light of recent activity on the members-discuss mailing list, > we also resolved to place the members-discuss mailing list in > moderation until 1 June. This follows numerous complaints that > have been made about mails that are off-topic and/or contain > material that does not show tolerance or respect for fellow > members of the list. > > > > The resolution and accompanying text is contained in the draft > minutes: > > > https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2020/minutes-134th-executive-board-meeting > > > > With this resolution, the principles of the RIPE Mailing > List/RIPE Forum Code of Conduct will be applied to the > members-discuss list. Emails that do not meet the requirements of > that code of conduct will not be approved to be posted to the list. > > > > Mails that do not meet the intended purpose of providing members > with a means to discuss membership issues among themselves will > also not be approved to be posted to the list. > > > > The moderators of the list will be the Executive Board Secretary > and one senior member of RIPE NCC staff. Mails will be moderated > during office hours. A separate archive of all mails including > those rejected by the moderators is available for all members to > view should they wish to do so: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss-unmoderated/ > > > > The Board is obviously aware that there is an election taking > place at the General Meeting and there are also matters of > importance to discuss such as the RIPE NCC Financial Report 2019 > and the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2021. We are determined to ensure > that we remain neutral in facilitating this membership discussion > list, and we also hope that members will abide by the purpose of > the list and the principles of the code of conduct. > > > > Regards, > > > > Piotr Strzyżewski > > RIPE NCC Executive Board Secretary > > > > _______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > > https://mailman.ripe.net/ > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/support%40imcisland.is > > _______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > > https://mailman.ripe.net/ > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/head%40global-data-networks.com > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > https://mailman.ripe.net/ > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/samgaw%40voxbit.net > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://mailman.ripe.net/ > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/daniel%40privatesystems.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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