[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [service] Decommissioning the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service

Hi Felipe

If I was in the need of additional IPv4 space, I would much rather go to a
location that is (a) central (b) legitimate (c) verifies that the
transferer actually has the rights to the address space and (d) where I can
be reasonably assured the sellers abide by RIPE policies.

I assume following recent discussions that those brokers found breaking
RIPE policy are now actively being removed, so this list is probably the
best I could hope for. And any other listing service would not have the
ability that you do to verify that the user has the address space in
question registered to them.

I would much rather this service continue to be maintained by the NCC than
have to trawl the internet and deal with some of the shadier characters out
there. And I don't feel it is a big ask of the NCC, as it falls under the
core remit of responsible stewardship of the resources.

And a note on the timing and your perceived utilisation statistics. Just
because I have not had a need for it just yet, does not mean I cannot
foresee a circumstance in the near future where I will need it. We have
only just reached the point of IPv4 runout.

I would also raise concerns that "a full reimplementation would be needed
to continue supporting it" - how has it been allowed to be developed in
such an unmaintainable manner that this is the only way to continue
operating it?

Regards

David



On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 12:59, Felipe Victolla Silveira <fvictolla at ripe.net>
wrote:

> Dear members,
>
> In my update at RIPE 80[1], I mentioned that we would like to decommission
> the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service unless there there were strong
> objections. So far, we have heard no requests to keep the service.
>
> In case anyone is unfamiliar with this, the listing service allows members
> to offer/request IPv4 prefixes for transfer:
>
> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/listing
>
> While there are currently 681,000 IPv4 addresses "offered" on the listing
> service, when we attempted to match LIRs that had used the service with
> those that went on to make a transfer, we couldn't find much of a
> correlation. Of the 1,969 LIRs that transferred resources in our service
> region last year, only 76 had posted on the listing service and it's not
> clear whether the service actually connected the offering/receiving parties
> for these cases.
>
> As the listing service is reaching the end of its lifespan, a full
> reimplementation would be needed to continue supporting it. Given that the
> listing service does not appear to be adding much in terms of value,
> spending development time on this does seem like a good use of members'
> funds.
>
> We are therefore planning to discontinue the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service
> on 22 June. If you have strong objections to this, please let us know or
> share feedback on members-discuss.
>
> Regards
>
> Felipe Victolla Silveira
> Chief Operations Officer
> RIPE NCC
>
> [1] RIPE NCC Operational Update:
>
> https://ripe80.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/28-Operational-Update-RIPE-80-to-upload.pdf
>
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