[members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Hmmm, maybe they are still processing them, but I would have thought 6 days was a bit excessive - Sorry

From: Together pal <info at together-pal.com>
Sent: 26 February 2020 20:16
To: Mike Simkins <mike.simkins at sungardas.com>; members-discuss at ripe.net
Cc: Bora Ismen <bora.ismen at nimbevo.com>; Dominic Schallert <ds at schallert.com>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Not for me

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On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:11 PM Mike Simkins <mike.simkins at sungardas.com<mailto:mike.simkins at sungardas.com>> wrote:

Yes, definitely there

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From: Together pal <info at together-pal.com<mailto:info at together-pal.com>>
Sent: 26 February 2020 20:00
To: Mike Simkins <mike.simkins at sungardas.com<mailto:mike.simkins at sungardas.com>>
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Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

They are not available for me, could you double check your account, I also contacted RIPE two days ago but still waiting for them to answer.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:57 PM Mike Simkins <mike.simkins at sungardas.com<mailto:mike.simkins at sungardas.com>> wrote:
They are available in the member (LIR)  portal


From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> On Behalf Of Bora Ismen
Sent: 26 February 2020 19:07
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Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Not yet, there is 2 more business days in February, and we have not received any invoices yet.

From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> On Behalf Of Together pal
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 6:41 PM
To: Dominic Schallert <ds at schallert.com<mailto:ds at schallert.com>>
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Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Did anyone got the invoice for 2020 fees??

Thanks

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:39 PM Dominic Schallert <ds at schallert.com<mailto:ds at schallert.com>> wrote:
I can‘t understand why the surplus redistribution in 2019 had been EUR 567,52 and in 2020 it’s only EUR 353,82 per LIR. This does not match with the actual new-LIR development figures in 2019 according to https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__labs.ripe.net_statistics_number-2Dof-2Dlirs&d=DwMFaQ&c=gYbc-GKV5BQa9zrq1GFCVg&r=S1PZn0PYDDYtiCW2fix2C1ZHo8KzLAckyehxqI4wl20&m=aa4caioPw4-cAEiv-4z0w1putGQ2GlC6jT7VBV7s3ic&s=BNpi6cGdcPmp9wP7gk0eut42luQ16YBpZ-5iUyKyr38&e=>

Regards


Am 26.02.2020 um 15:26 schrieb Radu-Adrian Feurdean <ripe-ncc at radu-adrian.feurdean.net<mailto:ripe-ncc at radu-adrian.feurdean.net>>:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, at 21:41, Arash Naderpour wrote:
It doesn't looks fair to me, but you need to see enough support from
the memebers to change it, NCC also like easy money, same as many of
others.

...and as most of its members who do enjoy the redistribution (when there is one) the next year.

Back to the initial question, the membership fee *IS* pro-rated when you *open* the LIR, sometimes to the advantage of the new member (not including an extra quarter for up to 2 or 3 weeks only).

If you perform a merger via "M&A Process", the rules are pretty clear that both LIRs involved need to be with membership fees paid. Even if you would manage to propose a resolution to change this, I'm not sure it will pass.

--
Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN

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