[members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Hello all,

In my opinion it is fair!
You are a business and always go forward through planes! So when you planned to terminate it why you didn’t terminate on last 31 of December!
This is not a game where you can decide to close in now and don’t play it anymore, and you close it!

Regards,

[VIG]
     Ilir DAKA
     IT Department
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From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Ali Vargonen
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 17:32
To: Mark Scholten <info at mscholten.eu>
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Hello,

- the issue is not about selling ips on our side.
- merge two different entities together after 10+ years.

In legal wise, if you terminate a contract earlier than the agreed period of time, there is normally a penalty fee. Not pushing hard to make annual payment.

The issue is not about money wise on my side. Just trying to learn what you think, and I respect each and every answer of you.

Thanks.



On 24 Feb 2020, at 18:49, Mark Scholten <info at mscholten.eu<mailto:info at mscholten.eu>> wrote:

Hello,

Maybe they should make an exception if you return at least a /22 IPv4 (or whatever direct allocation you did get from RIPE NCC). That way it would help to reduce the waiting list a bit.

If you are going to sell the /22 I don't see a reason to make it cheaper.

Also I believe RIPE NCC warns early enough for this (by the end of the previous year).

Regards, Mark

From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Cynthia Revström
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 16:41
To: Ali Vargonen
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question

Hello,

I think it is fair because pretty much the only members it affects are entities with multiple memberships which should not be able to get LIRs even cheaper.

- Cynthia

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:15 PM Ali Vargonen <ali at vargonen.com<mailto:ali at vargonen.com>> wrote:
Hello,

I would like to ask you about the membership fee costs of RIPE, today I learned something new.
Maybe it was something common and I was not aware of it.

As a member, you need to pay the full amount for the annual year 2020, if you just use the services for 10 days and terminate your membership with Ripe, so if you use services for 10 or 365 days you will be charged the same amount.

I asked if it is possible to make it at least Q based, but this is not an option, 6 months based, not an option.

You need to pay full year and it is not based on the number of days or (Q based) you are a member of RIPE in the year.

Interesting information for me, I do not think its fair, but everybody could think differently. I would like to get your opinions about it.

Is it fair to charge a member, who will not be a member in Q2 + Q3 + Q4 for the annual year?

Kind Regards,

A.V.

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