[members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world

Show me how to "software update" my BT modem to accept iPv4 (rhetorical)

I'm sorry, but you have had plenty of feedback from lots of people.
You refuse to see the obvious, nobody is going to spend the man hours required.

I am now respectfully bowing out, I have wasted enough time on this.

Please feel free to tell people I am part of an IPv6 conspiracy against you, but also accept that this is nonsense.


Best regards,

Stuart Willet.

From: Elad Cohen [mailto:elad at netstyle.io]
Sent: 26 April 2020 11:07
To: Stuart Willet (primary) <stu at safehosts.co.uk>; Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl>
Cc: Gert Döring <gert at space.net>; members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world

But you didn't understand IPv4+ based on what you are writing or you are trying to influence the readers...

First fully understand something, then decide if you are against it or not.

Regarding:
"you want millions of dollars spent on millions of upgrades for a handful of new IPv4 addresse"

No hardware upgrades will be need, only software updates and the software developers (operating system vendors and routing equipment manufacturers) will receive incentives. End-users / companies / organizations - will need to invest nothing.

Respectfully,
Elad

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From: Stuart Willet (primary) <stu at safehosts.co.uk<mailto:stu at safehosts.co.uk>>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:03 PM
To: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io<mailto:elad at netstyle.io>>; Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl<mailto:sander at steffann.nl>>
Cc: Gert Döring <gert at space.net<mailto:gert at space.net>>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> <members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>>
Subject: RE: [members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world


You have not convinced me, I make no money from IPv6.

I have no incentive to push IPv6 or downplay IPv4 or IPV4+



Your idea is flawed and that's that.





Sorry,



Stuart Willet.



From: Elad Cohen [mailto:elad at netstyle.io]
Sent: 26 April 2020 11:00
To: Stuart Willet (primary) <stu at safehosts.co.uk<mailto:stu at safehosts.co.uk>>; Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl<mailto:sander at steffann.nl>>
Cc: Gert Döring <gert at space.net<mailto:gert at space.net>>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world



Stuart,



The people that responded are not reflecting the opinion of the vast majority of internet companies and internet organizations - which needs IPv4.



Each and every person that I wasn't able to convince as you wrote is an active deployer of IPv6 and earns his money from deploying IPv6.



Respectfully,

Elad



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From: Stuart Willet (primary) <stu at safehosts.co.uk<mailto:stu at safehosts.co.uk>>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:54 PM
To: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io<mailto:elad at netstyle.io>>; Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl<mailto:sander at steffann.nl>>
Cc: Gert Döring <gert at space.net<mailto:gert at space.net>>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> <members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>>
Subject: RE: [members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world



Elad,



You are now making yourself look a little paranoid and silly.





Respectfully,



Stuart Willet.



From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Elad Cohen
Sent: 26 April 2020 10:53
To: Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl<mailto:sander at steffann.nl>>
Cc: Gert Döring <gert at space.net<mailto:gert at space.net>>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world



Sander is taking part in an illegal cyber influence operation against me.



Sander, instead of lying and acting like a coward with other interests, go ahead and ask me publicly any question that you would like regarding IPv4+ and you will be answered.



Respectfully,

Elad





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From: Sander Steffann
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:40 PM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Gert Döring; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Technical solution to resolve the IPv4 Exhaustion problem and to add more 4, 294, 967, 296 IPv4 addresses that are needed in the world



Hi,

> What being done here is a cyber influence operation against me, after I'm only trying to do good to the community.
>
> Sander, you didn't mention any flaws,  can you please write them here and I will answer each and every one of them ?

This is not the place Elad. Many flaws have been pointed out to you already, but you just dismiss them. Take this to the IETF, you'll feel right at home... *

Cheers,
Sander

* for those who don't follow the IETF, there is an appeal ongoing about IETF chairs and ADs ignoring inconvenient questions and objections
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