[members-discuss] Fwd: Re: RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers

Hi all,

we also received the same mail today.

Regards
Stefan




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Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> Im Auftrag von ds at schallert.com
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2019 12:55
An: members-discuss at ripe.net
Betreff: [members-discuss] Fwd: Re: RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers

Received this one below today. I'm pretty certain that they're also pulling contact data from https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/cc.xxxx.html

Regards



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To: xxxx
Date: 27. November 2019 11:13
Subject: Acquire IPv4

Greetings,


Hope this email finds you well.

We will gladly assist if you are interested to Buy / Sell / Lease IPv4 addresses.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.


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Von: "Alexander Zubkov" <green at msu.ru>
An: "Carlos Friaças" <cfriacas at fccn.pt>, members-discuss at ripe.net
CC: exec-board at ripe.net
Gesendet: 27. November 2019 00:37
Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers 26.11.2019, 20:16, "Carlos Friaças via members-discuss" <members-discuss at ripe.net>:

> On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, Sander Steffann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
> The page should reflect this: *these* are the brokers that have signed
> a contract with the NCC, and whoever is not on this page is inherently
> less trustworthy. Or at least, not backed by a NCC contract.
>> +1
>>
>> Currently the list of brokers is of value to the brokers because it
>> gives them credibility. Let's turn that around and make sure the list
>> is of value to the community instead, with very strict rules and
>> penalties for breaking the rules.

There are rules already. See "Recognised IPv4 Transfer Broker Agreement" link to it is available on the brokers list page:
https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers
https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers/RecognisedIPv4Broker
greement.doc
But the Supplity is still there, despite:
2. The Broker shall adhere to the relevant RIPE Policies and RIPE NCC procedural documents ...
4. The Broker does not represent the RIPE NCC and shall not imply or create the impression to third parties that they represent the RIPE NCC.
6. This agreement shall be terminated:
* By the RIPE NCC with immediate effect if the Broker violates any of their obligations as outlined in this agreement ...

And it is known for sure, that Supplity impersonates RIPE NCC on its Facebook page (still), they were lying in their spam about getting e-mail on RIPE NCC's training courses. They are obviously using RIPE DB to collect e-mails to send their spam messages.

PS. I reported their page to Facebook several days ago, but looks like they are not going to do anything with it or may be waiting for zillions of reports. So who can - please make more reports about their page: (...) -> Find Support or Report Page -> Scams and Fake Pages -> Pretending to be Another Business (or another report reason you find suitable). May be it will help.

> Hi,
>
> Are there any strict rules *today*?
>
> Are there any penalties for breaking the rules (if there are any) *today*?
>
> Cheers,
> Carlos
>
>> Cheers,
>> Sander
>
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