[members-discuss] RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers

Hi Raymond,

As far as they're using RIPE NCC website as a advertisement platform, I believe they should be compliant with the RIPE policies. I can agree with some feeling of 'recognition' of the brokers can be useful even for their promotion.

But Supplity isn't compliant with the policies. I got first spam message from them in January 2019. RIPE NCC's ticket #190448 lasts since June 2019, nothing really happened to them.

It is really sad to me that someone is using RIPE DB as a email database for marketing purposes.

OTOH, there was a proposal to completely remove brokers' list off the RIPE NCC website. I would rather disagree as there will be at least kinda tool for making non-compliance with RIPE[ NCC/DB] policies painful.


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Kind regards,
Sergey Myasoedov

> On 16 Nov 2019, at 23:28, Jetten Raymond <raymond.jetten at elisa.fi> wrote:
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> Thank you Sergey for bringing this up. I received it too on an address only in the database, and was about to write my usual response to these about the misuse of the DB, and promising them all possible legal problems if i would see 1 more... 
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> I dont see the point for the ripe NCC to keep a list of brokers on the website if some of them do not even follow the rules. Free advertizing ?
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> Lets change that list into a list of shame, remove the brokers that comply with the rules, and warn the community about misbehaving (proven like this one) brokers...
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> I'm sure that if someone needs an IPv4 broker they know how to use search engines.
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> Rgds
> Ray.
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> Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
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> Kohteesta: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> henkilön Sergey Myasoedov <kaa at net-art.cz> puolesta
> Lähetetty: lauantaina 16. marraskuuta 2019 klo 14.07
> Vastaanottaja: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Aihe: [members-discuss] RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers
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> Dear RIPE NCC, members,
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> I would like to raise an issue of misuse of the RIPE Database by the brokers. I've reported different issues to RIPE NCC, but every time I receive a reassurance that appropriate measures will be taken.
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> I am pretty sure that broker agreements and LIR contracts should be reviewed for every case of misuse of the RIPE NCC.
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> But this specific broker - Supplity - is still sending spam using the RIPE DB contacts and nothing has happened to them. So I would like to collect more data, whether someone else has reported their spam to NCC. And finally to ask a question why nothing is happened to their broker status.
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> Thank you.
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> Kind regards,
> Sergey Myasoedov
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