[members-discuss] New Charging Scheme

Hello, Gert

Yes, you are right the maths do not allow. In future it is sure we will 
have to migrate to IPV6 because IPV4 cant cover the needs.

BUT....

To can migration happen we all (LIRs) must be pushed in almost same time. 
This will not happen if one LIR strugling with resources need, and other 
have bunch of unused such. Even the fee per year for single IPV4 to become 
1000 EURO it will put presure on some LIRs and not to all. We are going on 
that way now. And it only opens the door for some people to make easy 
money from us fast.

Also the charging scheme must be FAIR for all members. I cant see other 
way than to be calculate on consumed resources.


Such charging scheme that we are talking about was never been in the past.
Before 2014, I think, The charging scheme was based on categories with 
complicated calculation of assignments from previous and current year and 
something like this.

Now I am talking about such scheme:

LIR-1 have 1 x /24 annual membership fee:
350 EURO

LIR-2 have 4 x /24 annual membership fee:
350 EURO + (4-1) * 10 EURO =  380 EURO

LIR-3 have 64 x /24 annual membership fee:
350 EURO + (64-1) * 10 EURO = 990 EURO

LIR-4 have 1024 x /24 annual membership fee:
350 EURO + (1024-1) * 10 EURO = 10580 EURO

Also changing in rules:
LIR cant sell give on lease or transfer to other LIR resources. If you 
need resources ask RIPE NCC, to lower your fee and have unused resources 
return to RIPE NCC.


Ivaylo Josifov
Varteh LTD
Varna Bulgaria



On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, Gert Doering wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 08:33:34PM +0100, Thomas Gallo - Nice Blue srl wrote:
>> this sound a very nice approach that could clearly put all on the same
>> plane: you can spend as you need ipv4 or you can return them if you
>> don't use it...
>
> The maths do not permit "spend as you need IPv4".  The big telcos with
> tens of millions of users and the cloud providers provably *need* all IPv4
> there is.  We've been at this point before, like, 15 years ago...
>
> Gert Doering
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