[members-discuss] BLACK FRIDAY IPv4 transfer

Hi,

> Op 3 dec. 2019, om 11:29 heeft Brandon Butterworth <brandon at rd.bbc.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> On Tue Dec 03, 2019 at 11:17:04AM +0200, ivaylo wrote:
>> The idea is very good ! As all google services are fully dual stack
>> already and running perfectly on IPV6, I dont think will be technical
>> unimposible.
>> 
>> The only problem is how can we make google do this?
> 
> It's been suggested to them many times at over the years
> (probably started with v6 day) but it's failed to get attention.
> 
> May be we've never run into the right people to tell, other than
> telling any googler you meet maybe it needs to find a way higher up.

I have been talking to Vint Cerf about this for many years now. Doesn't get much higher than that ;)

The problem is not that they don't care, but that they want to keep the pagerank score exclusively for things that improve the user experience, not to push technical things.

I have reasoned that for more and more users having the website reachable over IPv6 *does* improve their experience (avoiding CGN and NAT64, I have DS-Lite at home and if websites are slow it's always because it's IPv4-only and the stupid CGN is slowing everything down) but I guess the percentage of impacted users isn't significant enough for Google to adjust their rating algorithm for. But I am sure that percentage will grow, and that Google will take it into account when they deem it significant enough.

I hope Google starts soon though, even with only a very minor impact on the ranking to start with. I'd already be perfectly happy with Google publicly stating that IPv6 has an impact, even if that impact is 1e-100 (one googolth?). Just telling SEO people that IPv6 has *some* impact on their SEO will trigger a significant percentage of the hosting market. But their ranking algorithm is one of Google's trade secrets, so I'm sure we'll never know exactly what the impact will be :)

Cheers,
Sander

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