[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 - Board Reasoning

I represent a new LIR with one ASN and single /22, and so far I prefer
option A,
option B makes no sense to me. I know I could pay less with option B but
it's an unfair one.

Please do not abstain. If you don't like option B then vote for A and
continue the discussion here. If the discussion leads to anything relevant
I'm sure the board will take it into account for next meeting.

If the goal is to have more IPv4 for LIR that really need them, I'm not
sure any charging scheme can really change things.
RIPE has a budget and can't make profit, so the price per resource can't be
as high as we want. With only a few cents per IPv4 per year (about 5 cents
max as per my math), that's nothing for those who see things as "renting
ipv4".
Of course there are probably some LIR that have too much and will redeem
their resources - especially in non-profit and educational fields, but
also, with much lower annual fees (consequence of a price per IP), that's
an incentive for others to open additional LIR accounts to get more /22
before we run out of IPs. That could accelerate the depletion, and not
necessarily in favor or those who have legitimate use of IPv4.

To accelerate the move to IPv6, I think it's up to the community to find
other ways.
Could be promoting IPv6-only days during which many players commit to stop
announcing/forwarding IPv4 on external networks, these days becoming more
an more frequent over the years.
(ok - good luck convincing big players on that one...)


Bests,
Alexis Hanicotte
VelumWare SAS


On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:36 AM Alexandru Doszlop <
alexandru.doszlop at netprotect.ro> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This 2000 voters are mostly new LIRs with one ASN and one /22 ?
>
> Because if this is the case, they will surely vote for option B.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>
>
> On 25.04.2019 11:26, Taras Heichenko wrote:
> >
> >> On Apr 24, 2019, at 23:11, Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> > Hi,
> >
> >>> I guess in order to get some good result of this discussion would be
> best if board manager add third option into list: "I am not satisfied with
> option a) and b) and want contnue discuss."
> >> I guess an abstention could indicate that you don't want to vote for
> the options given. If a lot of people abstain then that would be a
> significant message to the board.
> > There are more than 20000 LIRs. Usually voting at GM shows less than
> 2000 votes. What exactly message does make this percent of voters to the
> board?
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> Sander
> >>
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