[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 - Board Reasoning

Hi Sebastian,


[...]

> 
> To be honest, no. It is not a good index. If your business growth
> depends on availability of IPv4 addresses it will fail. What exactly
> is the point on basing the fees on IPv4 blocks now? What is the goal
> this would achieve? IPv4 is over. People are fighting for scraps
> instead of thinking of solutions (like moving to IPv6).

Actually I think it shouldn't read "fees based on IPv4-Blocks" but "fees
based on resources". Actually the point is that several "persons"
created "$MANY" LIR (to receive more IPv4) and currently paid $MANY
LIR-Fees. Now that the transfer-block-period is over now, they'd
probably merge their LIR and suddenly pay only 1 LIR Fee instead of $MANY.

Billing based on resources would mean that these kind of business stays
less attractive by making it more expensive.

> [...]

> 
> If it has no impact what exactly is the goal of this then? RIPE NCC is
> a membership organisation, not a shop for IPv4 space.

Please replace IS with "IS MEANT TO BE". Unfortunately some think
setting up LIR and renting/selling IPv4 is a real business. Looking on
the prices currently being paid for selling/buying IPv4 brings up this
idea.

Therefore I'd really appreciate a billing scheme based on "per IP"
(either per single IPv4 or per /48 IPv6) held by a LIR. I am pretty
sure, that if every single IPv4 would increase costs for LIR, we'd
suddenly have at least the amount of one /8 back in the pool within one
year. This would destroy this "selling" of a resource which was actually
never "bought" and make it easy to serve people which enter the business
with a real internet related business.

Yes, I am also a real big fan of IPv6 ... but unfortunately there are
still many many services not running V6 out there (e.g. lots of the
bigger SIP-Providers).

Best regards
Jens


> 
> Regards
> 
> Sebastian
> 
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