[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 - Board Reasoning
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Jens Ott - Opteamax GmbH
ripe at opteamax.de
Tue Apr 23 16:30:38 CEST 2019
Hi Sebastian, [...] > > To be honest, no. It is not a good index. If your business growth > depends on availability of IPv4 addresses it will fail. What exactly > is the point on basing the fees on IPv4 blocks now? What is the goal > this would achieve? IPv4 is over. People are fighting for scraps > instead of thinking of solutions (like moving to IPv6). Actually I think it shouldn't read "fees based on IPv4-Blocks" but "fees based on resources". Actually the point is that several "persons" created "$MANY" LIR (to receive more IPv4) and currently paid $MANY LIR-Fees. Now that the transfer-block-period is over now, they'd probably merge their LIR and suddenly pay only 1 LIR Fee instead of $MANY. Billing based on resources would mean that these kind of business stays less attractive by making it more expensive. > [...] > > If it has no impact what exactly is the goal of this then? RIPE NCC is > a membership organisation, not a shop for IPv4 space. Please replace IS with "IS MEANT TO BE". Unfortunately some think setting up LIR and renting/selling IPv4 is a real business. Looking on the prices currently being paid for selling/buying IPv4 brings up this idea. Therefore I'd really appreciate a billing scheme based on "per IP" (either per single IPv4 or per /48 IPv6) held by a LIR. I am pretty sure, that if every single IPv4 would increase costs for LIR, we'd suddenly have at least the amount of one /8 back in the pool within one year. This would destroy this "selling" of a resource which was actually never "bought" and make it easy to serve people which enter the business with a real internet related business. Yes, I am also a real big fan of IPv6 ... but unfortunately there are still many many services not running V6 out there (e.g. lots of the bigger SIP-Providers). Best regards Jens > > Regards > > Sebastian > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe%40opteamax.de > -- Jens Ott Geschäftsführer Opteamax GmbH Simrockstr. 4b 53619 Rheinbreitbach Tel.: +49 2224 969500 Fax: +49 2224 97691059 Email: jo at opteamax.de HRB: 23144, Amtsgericht Montabaur Geschäftsführer: Jens Ott Umsatzsteuer-ID.: DE264133989
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