[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 - Board Reasoning

When I provide internet access to my customers (eyeballs or content 
providers), I provide 2 services :
- transit
- IPv4 addresses

Transit is sold, I cannot "take back the bits that have been sent".
But IPv4 space is "rented" as the end user never "owns" the addresses 
and I can reuse the IPv4 for other customers once his contract ends.
Of course I didn't mean renting whole blocks to other LIRs or something 
like that.
Sorry if it was misleading/bad wording.


I agree with you that almost all our benefits/margins come from the 
bandwidth part of the service.
In fact I think the "renting" fees we bill for IPv4 addresses do not 
even pay for our RIPE membership.
They're just there so customers don't ask for 100IP each.
So, no we do not make any money from renting IPv4 addresses neither.

But it is also quite clear that the more IPv4 addresses you have, the 
more customers you can serve and the more money you can make on the 
services provided via these IPv4 addresses.
So it seems like a good index on which to base LIR fees, doesn't it ?
That was my point/way of thinking.

And I proposed very low fees (€0.01 per /24 per year) which should not 
have any impact on the financial stability of our fellow LIRs.
Even those sitting on these public resources like anti-competitive 
speculators.
So, why not ?

Best regards,
Arnaud


Le 2019-04-23 11:13, Sebastian Wiesinger a écrit :
> * Arnaud BRAND <arnaud.brand--ripencc at tib.cc> [2019-04-19 17:03]:
>> Dear Christian,
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your explanations.
>> 
>> 
>> You most certainly know that, for now, LIR's incomes derive primarily 
>> from
>> the amount of IPv4 space they can rent to their customers.
> 
> That is completely untrue. We do not make any relevant amount of money
> by renting IPv4 addresses. This is purely a problem for people who do
> exactly that: Renting IPv4 space for money. This is not a "classic"
> LIR in any way.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sebastian
> 
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