[members-discuss] Regarding RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 - Two Options to Vote On

I agree, this vote does not make sense to me.
It seems to me that the board does not want a volume-based pricing, and so
suggests an option that few will vote for. Then they can say "you see,
people do not want volume-based pricing"...


An issue with most suggested "Option C" schemes is that final income will
be too high.
Here is a spreadsheet to help do the math and see the impact on each LIR.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oVAQ7ADW3UY17GPUgJl2T8AhMwHaDiuCb8a9fY6bark/edit?usp=sharing
(feel free to make a copy and do you own math)

For instance, if we estimate RIPE needed budget to 32M€,
and decide to charge half via flat fee, half via number of IPs,
that gives  740€ + 2.7cents / IPv4 address or IPv6/32 prefix.
(see tab n°2 of spreadsheet)




Alexis Hanicotte
VelumWare SAS


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:23 AM Michal Prokeš <michal.prokes at hdata.cz>
wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> there are many users discussing about per ipv4 payments for a long time. I
> does not have to be most wanted option, but I believe, it is most discussed
> option last years.
>
> So if we decide to make voting about charging scheme, it should include
> the most discussed option. We will see if it win or not. Voting without
> this option is misleading. Organizations with huge allocations love actual
> schema (optiona A) and small organizations with symbolic alocation of /22
> are definitely not going to vote for option B (very simplified it means:
> the less you have to buy on expensive ipv4 market the less you have to pay
> RIPE annualy).
>
> Please
>
> * Add option C (per-ipv4 fee) to choices
>
> or
>
> * Cancel this voting.
>
>
> Results of voting with announced options will be very misleading.
>
> Thanks,
>
> M. Prokeš
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gwen van Berne <gvanberne at ripe.net> <gvanberne at ripe.net>
> Date: Apr 17, 2019 18:08
> Subject: [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 - Two Options
> to Vote On
> To: ncc-announce at ripe.net
> Cc:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Members will vote on the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2020 at the General
> Meeting from 22-24 May. In response to requests from members, the
> Executive Board is proposing two charging scheme options that the
> members can choose from at the GM.
>
> An overview of the two options is also available that explains the two
> models in more detail. The overview and the two charging schemes are
> available at:
>
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2019/supporting-documents
>
> In short, the options that members will choose between are:
>
> Option A: The RIPE NCC will maintain the existing charging scheme,
> according to which members pay an annual fee of EUR 1,400 plus an extra
> EUR 50 per independent number resource assignment.
>
> Option B: The RIPE NCC will switch to a new volume-based, per
> registration charging scheme. This would involve lowering the annual fee
> to EUR 1,150  whilst broadening the applicability of the separate EUR 50
> charge to all number registrations held by the member. See the full list
> of registrations that would be charged in the document.
>
> The existing sign-up fee of EUR 2,000 will apply to both options.
>
> We encourage members to discuss the options on the Member Discuss
> mailing list at <members-discuss at ripe.net> <members-discuss at ripe.net>.
> The Executive Board and the
> RIPE NCC Management will follow discussions closely ahead of the GM.
>
> If you have not yet registered for the GM, we strongly encourage you to
> do so and make sure you have your say on which of two distinct charging
> scheme options should be adopted in May. Full participation and voting
> options are available for all members. You can register now via the LIR
> Portal at:
> https://www.ripe.net/s/gm-registration-may-2019
>
> All details on the GM, including the draft agenda, are available from:
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2019/
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gwen van Berne
> Chief Financial Officer
> RIPE NCC
>
>
>
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