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Adrian Bolster
Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net
Thu May 3 08:50:46 CEST 2018
A very good case in point Arash. We have acquired IPv4 by the secondary market and it's both expensive and risky dealing with a third party who is many hundreds of miles away from you. Sent from my iPhone On 3 May 2018, at 07:48, Arash Naderpour <arash.naderpour at gmail.com<mailto:arash.naderpour at gmail.com>> wrote: Speaking of the community, it has been dived to pre 2012 and post 2012. Some of old members are making a fortune by selling their unused IP addresses to post 2012 members. Maybe we need to be more specific when we talk about what is works better for the community :) Arash On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Jetten Raymond <raymond.jetten at elisa.fi<mailto:raymond.jetten at elisa.fi>> wrote: Hi Sebastian, All Even if you would have an archivist, the problem is that some people just don't read all that. Then there are a few folks that are only interested in how things would work better for themselves, not for the community. Rgds, Ray For Internal Use Only -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>] On Behalf Of Sebastian Wiesinger Sent: 2. toukokuuta 2018 15:47 To: members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers * Adrian Bolster <Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net<mailto:Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net>> [2018-05-02 12:53]: > The current rules are a good middle ground, however, as a relatively > new ISP we can only access one /22 per LIR. Newer entities, such as > us, do not have legacy IPv4 space which immediately inhibits growth > and competition in the ISP marketplace. Hi Adrian, this was discussed in the address-policy working group many, maaaany times. Please read the list archive for all the arguments and counterarguments. There is simply no way to change the fact: We're OUT of IPv4. Maybe an RIPE archivist wouldn't be such a bad idea after all. Regards Sebastian -- Sebastian Wiesinger Principal Network Architect Network & Security (ONS) noris network AG Thomas-Mann-Stra?e 16-20 90471 N?rnberg Deutschland Tel +49 911 9352 1335 Fax +49 911 9352 100 sebastian.wiesinger at noris.de<mailto:sebastian.wiesinger at noris.de> https://www.noris.de - Mehr Leistung als Standard Vorstand: Ingo Kraupa (Vorsitzender), Joachim Astel, J?rgen St?ding - Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Stefan Schnabel - AG N?rnberg HRB 17689 _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/raymond.jetten%40elisa.fi _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/arash.naderpour%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/adrian.bolster%40surebroadband.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20180503/9935f4b5/attachment.html>
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