[members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers

A very good case in point Arash.

We have acquired IPv4 by the secondary market and it's both expensive and risky dealing with a third party who is many hundreds of miles away from you.

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On 3 May 2018, at 07:48, Arash Naderpour <arash.naderpour at gmail.com<mailto:arash.naderpour at gmail.com>> wrote:

Speaking of the community, it has been dived to pre 2012 and post 2012. Some of old members are making a fortune by selling their unused IP addresses to post 2012 members. Maybe we need to be more specific when we talk about what is works better for the community :)

Arash





On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Jetten Raymond <raymond.jetten at elisa.fi<mailto:raymond.jetten at elisa.fi>> wrote:
Hi Sebastian, All

Even if you would have an archivist, the problem is that some people just don't read all that.
Then there are a few folks that are only interested in how things would work better for themselves, not for the community.

Rgds,

Ray



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* Adrian Bolster <Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net<mailto:Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net>> [2018-05-02 12:53]:
> The current rules are a good middle ground, however, as a relatively
> new ISP we can only access one /22 per LIR. Newer entities, such as
> us, do not have legacy IPv4 space which immediately inhibits growth
> and competition in the ISP marketplace.

Hi Adrian,

this was discussed in the address-policy working group many, maaaany
times. Please read the list archive for all the arguments and
counterarguments. There is simply no way to change the fact: We're OUT
of IPv4.


Maybe an RIPE archivist wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.

Regards

Sebastian

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