[members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers

Hi Adrian,
The challenge here is that there is no such switch to turn off the ipv4 routing (or any routing), and making it happens requires a global consensus or a major resource turning off ipv4 (Facebook or Google for instance). If we don't have that consensus, we are simply disconnecting ourselves from the internet.

Daniel

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Da: Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net
Inviato: 3 maggio 2018 8:45 AM
A: raymond.jetten at elisa.fi
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
Oggetto: Re: [members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers

Hi Ray,

I am interested in how things can work better for the community as a whole. It would be preferential, in my opinion, to turn off IPv4 routing on the Internet on the day that the last remnants are expected to be exhausted. As controversial as that is, it will properly encourage migration. 

We’ve all had plenty of time to lab and eek out the incompatible devices. We’ve all had opportunity to dual stack. We’ve all got plenty of IPv6 space. What’s stopping us?

Adrian. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 May 2018, at 07:31, Jetten Raymond <raymond.jetten at elisa.fi> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sebastian, All
> 
> Even if you would have an archivist, the problem is that some people just don't read all that.
> Then there are a few folks that are only interested in how things would work better for themselves, not for the community.
> 
> Rgds,
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Sebastian Wiesinger
> Sent: 2. toukokuuta 2018 15:47
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers
> 
> * Adrian Bolster <Adrian.Bolster at purebroadband.net> [2018-05-02 12:53]:
>> The current rules are a good middle ground, however, as a relatively
>> new ISP we can only access one /22 per LIR. Newer entities, such as
>> us, do not have legacy IPv4 space which immediately inhibits growth
>> and competition in the ISP marketplace.
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> this was discussed in the address-policy working group many, maaaany
> times. Please read the list archive for all the arguments and
> counterarguments. There is simply no way to change the fact: We're OUT
> of IPv4.
> 
> 
> Maybe an RIPE archivist wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sebastian
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