[members-discuss] RIPE NCC and the geopolitical situation
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Daniel Suchy
danny at danysek.cz
Wed Apr 18 11:16:26 CEST 2018
I *don't* support such ideas. RIPE (and IANA on top level) has to be strictly *apolitical* organisation. We're not here to judge goverments within our service region. There's no rule forcing (global) rechability of LIR-allocated addres space. In general, it's not a good idea to force that now - this may cause problems, which are'nt advertising their allocated address space for some technical purpose. With regards, Daniel On 04/17/2018 05:37 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: > All, > > the recent discussion about moving the NCC and the relative > political stability of countries in the service region has > caused me to think about the RIPE NCC in the current political > context. THere appears to be an incipient issue here: > > 1) Problem statement > > the current geopolitical situation in the RIPE service region > has, unfortunately, greatly degraded in the recent past. There > are territorial conflicts (Ukraine/Russia), there are outright > civil wars (Syria, Afghanistan) and, perhaps closest to "home", > the cold war is back between "The West" and Russia as well as > Iran (both in the RIPE service region). > The rhetoric in both the EU and NATO (both of which NL is a > member of) is becoming increasingly belligerent and there is an > increasing likelihood of this stance leading to unilateral > sanctions against those seen as "enemies". Since "internet > propaganda", "Russian Trolls", etc are now often taking the blame > for every ill in Europe, I should be surprised if those didn't > also include internet resources. I would not see it without the > realm of the possible, that increasing political/legal pressure > would be brought on the RIPE NCC to deny service and perhaps > revoke resources allocated to these enemies-du-jour. > > 2) Possible outcomes > > - Sanctioned countries might take their ball and go elsewhere > (another RIR?) > > - Sanctioned countries might take their resources and set up > their own RIR, approved by IANA or, more likely, not. > > - They might refuse (or be prohibited from) cooperation with the > original IANA/RIR/LIR system. > > - In a worst-case scenario this could lead to the same resources > used by "opposing" RIRs and a fracturing of the internet. > > - In such a case, it is hard to imagine the ITU (as an UN body) > *not* taking control of resource management to prevent such a > fracture. > > 3) Mitigations > > - The only one I can think of is relocating the NCC to a country > - if that exists- which is neutral and does not participate in > these block fights (Switzerland?, Sweden?). > > As a question to the board: does the RIPE NCC have any > contingency plans to mitigate this situation when it occurs? > > Kind Regards, > Sascha Luck > - resources > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/danny%40danysek.cz >
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