[members-discuss] RIPE NCC and the geopolitical situation

I *don't* support such ideas. RIPE (and IANA on top level) has to be
strictly *apolitical* organisation. We're not here to judge goverments
within our service region.

There's no rule forcing (global) rechability of LIR-allocated addres
space. In general, it's not a good idea to force that now - this may
cause problems, which are'nt advertising their allocated address space
for some technical purpose.

With regards,
Daniel

On 04/17/2018 05:37 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
> All,
> 
> the recent discussion about moving the NCC and the relative
> political stability of countries in the service region has
> caused me to think about the RIPE NCC in the current political
> context. THere appears to be an incipient issue here:
> 
> 1) Problem statement
> 
> the current geopolitical situation in the RIPE service region
> has, unfortunately, greatly degraded in the recent past. There
> are territorial conflicts (Ukraine/Russia), there are outright
> civil wars (Syria, Afghanistan) and, perhaps closest to "home",
> the cold war is back between "The West" and Russia as well as
> Iran (both in the RIPE service region).
> The rhetoric in both the EU and NATO (both of which NL is a
> member of) is becoming increasingly belligerent and there is an
> increasing likelihood of this stance leading to unilateral
> sanctions against those seen as "enemies". Since "internet
> propaganda", "Russian Trolls", etc are now often taking the blame
> for every ill in Europe, I should be surprised if those didn't
> also include internet resources. I would not see it without the
> realm of the possible, that increasing political/legal pressure
> would be brought on the RIPE NCC to deny service and perhaps
> revoke resources allocated to these enemies-du-jour.
> 
> 2) Possible outcomes
> 
> - Sanctioned countries might take their ball and go elsewhere
>  (another RIR?)
> 
> - Sanctioned countries might take their resources and set up
>  their own RIR, approved by IANA or, more likely, not.
> 
> - They might refuse (or be prohibited from) cooperation with the
>  original IANA/RIR/LIR system.
> 
> - In a worst-case scenario this could lead to the same resources
>  used by "opposing" RIRs and a fracturing of the internet.
> 
> - In such a case, it is hard to imagine the ITU (as an UN body)
>  *not* taking control of resource management to prevent such a
> fracture.
> 
> 3) Mitigations
> 
> - The only one I can think of is relocating the NCC to a country
>  - if that exists- which is neutral and does not participate in
>    these block fights (Switzerland?, Sweden?).
> 
> As a question to the board: does the RIPE NCC have any
> contingency plans to mitigate this situation when it occurs?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Sascha Luck
> - resources
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