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[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019
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John Fitzgerald
john.fitzgerald at internet.de
Fri Apr 13 13:50:25 CEST 2018
Imho, the debate should not only be about money, but about political stability, too. We all see some non-democratic changes in several countries (!). Since RIPE has to be independent, I would suggest such countries, if any. That would be Switzerland and Austria only, as far as I can see. Since Switzerland is definitely more expensive than Netherlands, Austria may seem the only choice. But, the move and loosing / changing staff would be far more expensive and disruptive than remaining in Amsterdam. So, at the end of the day, I _definitely_ want RIPE NCC remain in NL. Kind regards, John Fitzgerald ---------------------------------------------------------------- John Fitzgerald Interactive Network GmbH MD/Geschaeftsfuehrer Lindleystraße 14 http://www.internet.de D-60314 Frankfurt am Main ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Emre Ögütcen Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:02 PM To: members-discuss at ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019 Hello All, If you want to carry your surrogate and your operations. we can give support and encouragement as a state. From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Engür Rıza Pişirici Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 12:24 PM To: Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019 Hello All, Istanbul might be good idea if RIPE NCC really want to move some parts of their office to Eastern Europe. Best Regards, -engur tr.bilkent On 12 Apr 2018, at 22:35, Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com> wrote: So what do you think about moving a part of the office of the RIPE to Eastern Europe (registration services, customer services, technicians), and leaving the management in the Netherlands? This will reduce spending for electricity, wages, taxes, and, consequently, membership fees. чт, 12 Апр 2018 г., 21:41 Gert Doering <gert at space.net>: Hi, On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:09:47PM +0300, Juri wrote: > Gerg, please don't move away point of main question. > All those things should be discussed separately. As people join the NCC *only* because it's cheaper to get an IPv4 /22 that way, and not for any other reason (like, IPv6, or voting rights, or "because they want to be part of the Internet community") - as long as this is (quite visibly) happening, you cannot separate resource consumption from fee structure. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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