[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019

The Belarus Republic is more stable in economics and politics. About staff
quality - the NCC has many trainings and should grow the new talent people.

пт, 13 Апр 2018 г., 16:31 William <william at william.si>:

> Let's not even start on political climate and safety in Turkey; this
> discussion is pointless (because neither exists anymore).
>
> Funny enough, as i noted to a Russian writing me direct the *worst*
> possibilities are Turkey, Belarus and the arab countries - Russia is not
> THAT bad, i just noted what i know as it was specifically mentioned as
> option.
>
> RIPE is where it always was, where it should be and safe there at higher
> but not insane costs - if you want INSANE costs look at the LACNIC and ARIN
> spending (which also are far less open generally about it). If you want to
> see legal corruption on paper look at AFRINIC.
>
> APNIC and RIPE are pretty much the only fair, affordable and *predictable*
> RIRs.
>
> --
> William Weber
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:36, Engür Rıza Pişirici <engur at bilkent.edu.tr>
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Istanbul might be good idea if RIPE NCC really want to move some parts of
> their office to Eastern Europe.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> -engur
> tr.bilkent
>
>
> On 12 Apr 2018, at 22:35, Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> So what do you think about moving a part of the office of the RIPE to
> Eastern Europe (registration services, customer services, technicians), and
> leaving the management in the Netherlands? This will reduce spending for
> electricity, wages, taxes, and, consequently, membership fees.
>
> чт, 12 Апр 2018 г., 21:41 Gert Doering <gert at space.net>:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:09:47PM +0300, Juri wrote:
> > Gerg, please don't move away point of main question.
> > All those things should be discussed separately.
>
> As people join the NCC *only* because it's cheaper to get an IPv4 /22
> that way, and not for any other reason (like, IPv6, or voting rights,
> or "because they want to be part of the Internet community") - as long
> as this is (quite visibly) happening, you cannot separate resource
> consumption from fee structure.
>
> Gert Doering
>         -- NetMaster
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> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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