[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019

I was just about to write the same.
I didn’t read all mails on this discussion as the threat is escalating and to many very personal opinions where made.

In general it seems that the community is looking for more details on investments and expenses made and how things are calculated.
Please allow RIPE time to take a statement on this.


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Oh, I’m sorry, but this discussion is really out of hand. Are you talking about moving RIPE offices because of lower costs in certain parts of the world ? I think this is insane to even bring to subject such matters.
Ripe is based in Netherlands, one of the best and most respected countries on Earth, and it should remain there. Proposing to move RIPE or even propose for RIPE to open offices in parts of the world that are politically, military and economically unstable (like Turkey or Russia) is simply BS.
Even in my country, with a socialist Government we have political and economical uncertainties just about every other week.

To be honest, the only place I would RIPE to open offices any time soon is in London, which is one of the financial and IT capitals of the EU (so far). The entire world really needs to be focused on the West in every aspect possible, rather than heading East.

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On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:23, Engür Rıza Pişirici <engur at bilkent.edu.tr<mailto:engur at bilkent.edu.tr>> wrote:

Hello All,

Istanbul might be good idea if RIPE NCC really want to move some parts of their office to Eastern Europe.

Best Regards,

-engur
tr.bilkent


On 12 Apr 2018, at 22:35, Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com<mailto:aleksbulgakov at gmail.com>> wrote:
So what do you think about moving a part of the office of the RIPE to Eastern Europe (registration services, customer services, technicians), and leaving the management in the Netherlands? This will reduce spending for electricity, wages, taxes, and, consequently, membership fees.

чт, 12 Апр 2018 г., 21:41 Gert Doering <gert at space.net<mailto:gert at space.net>>:
Hi,

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:09:47PM +0300, Juri wrote:
> Gerg, please don't move away point of main question.
> All those things should be discussed separately.

As people join the NCC *only* because it's cheaper to get an IPv4 /22
that way, and not for any other reason (like, IPv6, or voting rights,
or "because they want to be part of the Internet community") - as long
as this is (quite visibly) happening, you cannot separate resource
consumption from fee structure.

Gert Doering
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