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Daniel Pearson
daniel at privatesystems.net
Fri Apr 13 13:32:43 CEST 2018
As my grandfather use to say. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I know it makes everyone feel good to have these pointless discussions and if that's what it takes by all means continue on, I do find them entertaining, but please, join reality. End of the day this is business, it costs money. Considering no rate increases and the fact that most years we've had a surplus so who cares if they blow a little money on hookers and coke, it's ok. RIPE provides us a good, reliable service and prompt turn around time on any requests. As someone else has said, try working with other RIRs. Anyways, carry on. On 04/13/2018 02:03 AM, Huf Oliver, CI-A Rolls-Royce Power Systems AG wrote: > > William, > > while I don't feel competent enough to comment on the first part of > your reply, I fully second the last paragraph! > > Oliver. > > *Von:* members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] *Im > Auftrag von *William > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 13. April 2018 02:16 > *An:* Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com> > *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net; agm at ripe.net > *Betreff:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual > Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019 > > Must be some joke (i hope at least). > > Russia does not have staff needs available unless you pay excessive > (skilled are in fact leaving anyway, we have a bunch of Russians > working from Cyprus nowadays), Russia is not politically stable (a > stable autocracy is not politically stable overall) and the currency > fluctuates between basically worthless and entirely worthless. > > Government control is excessive, freedom of business is low, growth is > low, legal security is nil.... plus one more round of UN sanctions > could cut off any RIPE member from paying invoices entirely. > > Russia is in no way suitable for RIPE (and in fact, Bulgaria has less > tax than Russia anyway + a much more simple tax system + EU). > > In case of no joke... after speaking with some LIRs we'll boycott any > attempts to move the NCC out of the EU and i assume from the statutes > this requires a full member vote which is extremely unlikely to pass > for Russia (or in practice anyone else). > > -- > > William Weber > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 01:39, Aleksey Bulgakov > <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com <mailto:aleksbulgakov at gmail.com>> wrote: > > <david.ponzone at ipeva.fr <mailto:david.ponzone at ipeva.fr>>: > > AFAIK, social charges paid by the employer in NL are around > 28%, so it's less than 3000 euros per month per staff member > of income. > > And that's before social charges paid by the employee (18%), > so it's less than 2500€ of net income per staff. > > I would not judge if that's high or low in NL, but that's not > 4000€ > > So, we can move the RIPE office to another country, with > less salary numbers. E.g. there are the salary numbers > approximately 1500€ in Russia, including tax 13%. With social tax > 30% the salary numbers are 2000€ in Moscow. > > What do you think about it? Me and my colleagues, who wrote here > earlier, are ready to help the community with relocation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/daniel%40privatesystems.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20180413/7b323b50/attachment.html>
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